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  • The Big Dunn
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    #121
    Originally posted by DougalDylan
    My frustration is you can't see everything Haymon and Wilder did was a iie ...

    At 22 fights no Joshua / no AJ to blame he fought a guy who lost his last seven every time they picked a bad fight time and again. When he won the belt at 30 fights they publicly admitted they were ducking Klitschko, where was the Wilder vs Haye fight etc etc .. excuse after excuse for rubbish. When Joshua came along then everything was his fault. Why didn't Wilder fight Martin .. both Haymon easy fight to make.


    Finkel then takes 97.5% of a fighters purse for a title fight and Wilder fans blame AJ for not trusting him without a contract for a Wilder fight.
    You think Hearn wasn't lying? Well ok but we have Parker who complained about a sh-t deal until it was reworked, we have Wilder, and now we have Whyte saying the rematch talk was all BS.

    How many different fighters have to point out the BS from that side? Unless you believe everyone else is just making things up.

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      #122
      Originally posted by Jax teller
      Wilder chatted the most about legacy and not being about money and how the other side milk the public then since the Fury fight ignored AJ and has done a complete U-turn saying he's waiting.

      I think since Fury returned to top flight Hearn has been serious about making the Wilder fight. The thing that is going to get DAZN the most subscribers is Wilder AJ, so if you believe he's acting in DAZNs interest it's probably a good assumption he's gonna be serious about that fight. If you look at how many offers Finkel has made in comparison that's probably another indicator of who's the most serious plus the fact that Hearn stepped back to let Finkel talk directly with DAZN.
      I don't believe for one second this isn't about money. A lot of boxers get coached by their PR people to say that. I don't believe any of them, including Wilder.

      We agree he now wants to make the fight, but that is to help DAZN, not because he gives a crap about fans.

      I can't see why anyone would believe Haymon would put Wilder on DAZN when his business would benefit more from DAZN either failing or dropping boxing in order to get more mainstream sports programming.

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      • New England
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        #123
        they should have taken the money and i'm fairly certain they priced themselves out intentionally because that guy coudln't pass a drug test.

        that said, joshua turned down 50 million.

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          #124
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          I don't believe for one second this isn't about money. A lot of boxers get coached by their PR people to say that. I don't believe any of them, including Wilder.

          We agree he now wants to make the fight, but that is to help DAZN, not because he gives a crap about fans.

          I can't see why anyone would believe Haymon would put Wilder on DAZN when his business would benefit more from DAZN either failing or dropping boxing in order to get more mainstream sports programming.
          I don't doubt it's about money for both sides.

          Though I was hoping I'd see more offers from Wilders side to get the fight on their own network instead of saying not now. Doesn't matter what US network it's on for me.

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            #125
            Originally posted by Jax teller
            I don't doubt it's about money for both sides.

            Though I was hoping I'd see more offers from Wilders side to get the fight on their own network instead of saying not now. Doesn't matter what US network it's on for me.
            I don't care either.

            I think many fans want it on DAZN because it's more cost effective to pay for 1 year of DAZN then just the Wilder/AJ PPV card.

            I think in the end we will see a mix of models. Streaming clearly is the future. I would like to see DAZN put fights on like an NBCSports so they have fights on streams and TV, same as SHO/PBC.

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