Now that Wikder has admitted he is "running in a different direction to Joshua"

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  • juggernaut666
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    #41
    Originally posted by boogbx
    Wilder wanted the fight bad with Joshua. After getting taken to school by Fury that’s half the fighter of Joshua, he has been ducking blatantly.

    Wilder has a good fight ahead, Brezeale ain’t the best HW but given Wilders limited ability, he is a live dog.

    Let’s discuss after the fight and see where everything stands.
    No one runs from an over 100 million $ deal and wants a fight badly. Maybe that idiot THE Big Dunn would apparently hes got millions and tells others what low ball offers are ? lol
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-07-2019, 12:29 PM.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #42
      Originally posted by juggernaut666
      I didnt ask you anything you simpleton thats ONE,you responded to my post !

      TWO, you have nothing for me to ask,unless im asking how is it possible you Wildertards got so dumb ? Its literally set a new standard of delusion and ignorance.


      And THREE .You cant be CUT out of anything if you are not making the amount you are claiming to be CUT out of and don't even generate PPV's in the sport you F;ING ******.

      The Big DUMB is your real name on here !
      You're an imbecile. I should've remembered that when I responded to answer the question.

      Wilder and his team know that the fight will generate a significant amount of revenue even though he nor AJ are established US PPV stars because the fight is highly anticipated.

      His not taking a guaranteed amount that would cut him out of the total revenue generated makes sense to anyone but you. It's the same decision GGG made relative to Canelo and Manny to Floyd.

      I apologize for assuming you were capable of having an adult conversation. I will not make that mistake again.

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      • kafkod
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        #43
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        When 7x your biggest payday cuts you out of millions of dollars of revenue from subscriptions sold.

        Hearn now offered Wilder $100 mil for a 3 fight deal, 2 of which would have been with AJ. I think we can agree DAZN will sell at least 1 mil subscriptions in the US alone off these 2 fights.

        Wilder taking $100 mil deal is a fraction of the revenue the US subscriptions sales will generate, not to mention the live gate, merchandise and any DAZN subscriptions outside the US.

        So would you take that payday knowing you are responsible for generating anywhere from $100-300 million in subscriptions sales alone?
        Given that it is at around 10 times more than I can expect to be offered by anybody else for doing the same work then yes, I would bite their hand off ... if I actually wanted that work.

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          #44
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          You're an imbecile. I should've remembered that when I responded to answer the question.

          Wilder and his team know that the fight will generate a significant amount of revenue even though he nor AJ are established US PPV stars because the fight is highly anticipated.

          His not taking a guaranteed amount that would cut him out of the total revenue generated makes sense to anyone but you. It's the same decision GGG made relative to Canelo and Manny to Floyd.

          I apologize for assuming you were capable of having an adult conversation. I will not make that mistake again.

          Again DUMMY,i wasn't addressing you and didn't ASK you anything ,unless New England is your ALT account ?

          Wilder made it clear alright,he made it clear on national T.V stating no matter what fans want they need someone else to fight AJ...how SIMPLE is that for you ?


          the Guaranteed amount is what he CANNOT make otherwise ,the amount is TWELVE times over his Fury revenue generated fight.

          Having an adult convo with the Wildertards stopped last year as this is how and the only way to get through to the uneducated ignorant fan base which you are a part of on here and don't seem to get through your thick head one doesn't turn down title shots worth multi millions when hes fighting a next fight of 5 million or even if it was 20 million ( 20 million that DAZN offered) do you think hes making 20 on Breazeale on Showtime ? IDIOT !

          You cant even grasp that I didn't ask you anything ,and you want to talk about mathematics with me ?

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I am ignoring it because that doesn't justify your being against a flat fee offer in that case but being ok with it hen a guy you like offered it to a guy you don't.
            If you can't see the difference between one guy being offered a flat fee for a fight in a year's time, and another guy, who was fighting for lower purses at that time, being offered a higher flat for an immediate fight, then you are either ******ed or hopelessly biased.

            And again, I was actually against it in both cases, but one offer was accepted and the other wasn't.

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              #46
              Originally posted by kafkod
              Given that it is at around 10 times more than I can expect to be offered by anybody else for doing the same work then yes, I would bite their hand off ... if I actually wanted that work.
              If you say you would take it than so be it. I have posted at 3 times I know where the offer was rejected, even though it was more than they had ever made. In 2 of those times-GGG and Manny- the guy that rejected the offer eventually signed and got significantly more than they were initially offered.

              We will see with Wilder.

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                #47
                The worst thing that happened for this fight to happen is that the Wilder/Fury was a good fight that sold well. Now everybody is there promoter's cash fighter and now we are going to have this held up.

                At minimum it was suppose to be AJ vs Miller and Fury vs Wilder 2. We are not even getting that anymore.

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                  #48
                  What will the Wilder fans say after May 18th and how smart the move from was to decline 120 million ? Can't wait.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    If you can't see the difference between one guy being offered a flat fee for a fight in a year's time, and another guy, who was fighting for lower purses at that time, being offered a higher flat for an immediate fight, then you are either ******ed or hopelessly biased.

                    And again, I was actually against it in both cases, but one offer was accepted and the other wasn't.
                    "you are either ******ed "

                    This has certainly been established beyond reasonable doubt.
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-07-2019, 01:27 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      No one runs from an over 100 million $ deal and wants a fight badly. Maybe that idiot THE Big Dunn would apparently hes got millions and tells others what low ball offers are ? lol
                      https://********/ulWvFTiNZm8

                      This was Wilder before the Fury fight.

                      He was anywhere and everywhere calling out Joshua. Coming off the hype of knocking out Ortiz, Wilder was as vocal as can be.

                      Since the fury fight he been quieter than a hooker in church. He been making excuses and shows no interest at all.

                      Suddenly he’s the consummate professional and business man GTFOH.

                      Fight might never happen now, Wilder is scared he could be brutally dominated and beaten, possibly ko’d.

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