Comments Thread For: Golovkin: Abel's Father-Son Talk Is Just Him Playing Games!

[TonyGe]

I just posted something to show, Hit Man didn't leave over money! Mr. Steward (R.I.P.) didn't want Hearns fighting anymore, unless it was a super fight, because he knew Tommy was deteriorating in front of his eyes! Those things happen!

Depends who you ask. Some reports indicated money was a big reason Hearns split. He was reckless with his fianances.

[Bronx2245]

Depends who you ask. Some reports indicated money was a big reason Hearns split. He was reckless with his fianances.

It depends on who you trust. I'm going to go with Manny Steward over Harold Rossfields Smith, the guy who went to Federal prison for embezzlement!

[JLC]

Didn't triple jab say he aint no business man doe?

Guess he has to eat those words. Probably a meal well worth it for 10 mil at the end of your career. Lol

[robbyheartbaby]

Cmon man, you know how things are around here. The anti-GGG faction is ravenous. Sure the guys never got busted for drugs/PEDs, beating a woman, or anything akin to that- but he dumped his long time trainer so he must be attacked (really anything he does they just want to attack).

Truth is its a mix of schadenfreude, tribalism, backlash to celebrity hype, and him being the best MW during a weaker era. But you know the saying, "if theyre hating you, you must be doing something right".

You make some very good points, people judging GGG for this are absurd. I think anything GGG does fuels the haters. Don't get me wrong Rolls is a ****e opponent but people call him a fraud or say he ducked opponents even though he has faced BOTH the fighters that fought over the weekend!

[BillyBoxing]

No hate here, I just said he was done at the top.

And I disagree, I didn't see him winning either Canelo fight, but he didn't get totally outclassed like Jacobs.

Since I'm speaking on this, I feel Canelo's win over Jacobs pretty much sealed his two wins over Golovkin.

I hate the triangle theory, but let's be clear here....everybody (aside from FMJ) that stepped in the ring with Canelo simply couldn't pull the trigger as they would against anybody else...so i think it's time the boxing world gives Canelo his credit for being THE man in boxing.

That's pretty much expected, that's your opinion, but reality is GGG beat Jacobs, and the judges gave him 12 rounds vs Canelo in both fights, and any serious person had those 24 rounds competitive and close...

Most people had GGG winning the first.

But let's stick to result, judge gave him a draw in the first Nelo fight, I'm not even contesting the results, I'm being fair play.

But if past your prime you can get a draw vs Nelo then you aren't that bad as a fighter isn't it?

[BillyBoxing]

... There wasn't any war in Kazakhstan... but, instead, it seems that GGG's elder brothers put him fight in the streets since early childhood... GGG started boxing at 8 yo...

I didn't say there was a war in Kazakhstan I said he grew up in war contest, because his 2 elder brothers went to fight and died...

That is enough of a contest and to influence a man mind isn't it mister popesc?

[MDPopescu]

Golovkin grew up in a war context, 2 of the 4 brothers got killed during the conflict.

I didn't say there was a war in Kazakhstan I said he grew up in war contest, because his 2 elder brothers went to fight and died...

That is enough of a contest and to influence a man mind isn't it mister popesc?

... whatever...

[Thuglife Nelo]

This is what Abel Sanchez did to Golovkin each morning before training!

[MeanestNiceGuy]

That's pretty much expected, that's your opinion, but reality is GGG beat Jacobs, and the judges gave him 12 rounds vs Canelo in both fights, and any serious person had those 24 rounds competitive and close...

Most people had GGG winning the first.

But let's stick to result, judge gave him a draw in the first Nelo fight, I'm not even contesting the results, I'm being fair play.

But if past your prime you can get a draw vs Nelo then you aren't that bad as a fighter isn't it?

Being that it was a draw, fans can claim the rightful winner from their point of view. Cool.

On the other hand, we can't start saying GGG was "past his prime", that's ridiculous because people weren't saying that going into the first fight.

Question is, would he have been "prime" had he soundly beat Canelo in the first fight? If so, then we can't say he was past his prime because the rounds were close and it ended in a draw.

Moreover, for those who had Canelo winning (me included), can't say Golovkin was past his prime because that pretty much diminishes Canelo's W.

[BillyBoxing]

Being that it was a draw, fans can claim the rightful winner from their point of view. Cool.

On the other hand, we can't start saying GGG was "past his prime", that's ridiculous because people weren't saying that going into the first fight.

Question is, would he have been "prime" had he soundly beat Canelo in the first fight? If so, then we can't say he was past his prime because the rounds were close and it ended in a draw.

Moreover, for those who had Canelo winning (me included), can't say Golovkin was past his prime because that pretty much diminishes Canelo's W.

It is safe and honest to say that GGG wasn't at his peak at 36.
Especially with his style wich is pretty much a high volume pressure physical style.

I'm not saying that GGG was shot or too old and not a legit win for Nelo.

But he wasn't at his peak either.

My problem with yall Canelo fans is for whatever reason or maybe because yall dumbs yall downplaying and sht on GGG as a person and a fighter every chance yall got.

But GGG is Canelo best win and rivalry.

GGG is to Canelo what Hagler was to Leonard.

Yall act like GGG is Leonard's Donny Lalonde.

GGG is no angel or whatever but neither is Canelo and his clenbuterol a.ss.