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    #41
    When Abel "talks too much to the press" Sanchez is training housewives for $20/hr he'll be missing that 2%!

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      #42
      Lol, who needs who in that equation? Sanchez not so goods wit the math.

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        #43
        Originally posted by robbyheartbaby
        Ah big deal he changed trainers people will whinge about anything I just wanna see GGG fight a living body next not Steve Rolls.
        Cmon man, you know how things are around here. The anti-GGG faction is ravenous. Sure the guys never got busted for drugs/PEDs, beating a woman, or anything akin to that- but he dumped his long time trainer so he must be attacked (really anything he does they just want to attack).

        Truth is its a mix of schadenfreude, tribalism, backlash to celebrity hype, and him being the best MW during a weaker era. But you know the saying, "if theyre hating you, you must be doing something right".
        Last edited by DeeMoney; 05-06-2019, 08:08 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Bronx2245
          I can't argue that! It is his money, I just can't see that happening to Emmanuel Steward, Robert Garcia, Ronnie Shields, BoMac, or Papachenko! You might move on b/c you feel your skills are stagnant, and you want change, but to leave b/c of money? Nah.
          Anybody dumb enough to leave Emmanuel Steward reaps what they sow lol. However I get your point. However I don't feel like his trainer was honestly even all that good to warrant that new pay grade and GGG felt like the too. He's not poor he will be ok.

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            #45
            I'm a GGG fan, but Abel earned his 10%.

            GGG didn't even speak English when he got here and needed Abel to be his voice to the public for years.

            Hell, nobody's promoted him better than Abel did, on top of leading him to becoming one of the biggest names in the sport.

            If no trainer is worth $10 million, then no fighter is worth $100 million

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              #46
              Originally posted by JLC
              I completely disagree here. Golovkin has the right to want to renegotiate what he pays out. Abel has the right to refuse. I totally respect a trainers role, but we’re talking about a percentage here. No different than the sanctioning bodies reducing or capping out their percentage based on the purse of the fight. Whatever their percentage is for a 1 million dollar fight can be negotiated or reduced in a 500 million dollar fight.

              And the same with a promoter. People always talk about fighters getting in position to take control of their finances and careers. If Crawford was in a spot to stay with Top Rank but demanding that they take a smaller cut of his purses or he walks to a different promoter good on him.

              It’s negotiation man. It’s business at the end of the day. Everybody involved has the right to do what’s best for them. Abel didn’t like the terms and he walked. That’s that.
              Didn't triple jab say he aint no business man doe?

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                #47
                Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                Golovkin grew up in a war context, 2 of the 4 brothers got killed during the conflict.

                That not some western suburbs bullsht drama, so indeed GGG doesn't about Abel's feelings.

                I believe GGG is a straight real dude but also merciless and cold as ice as you said...just like in the ring.
                ... There wasn't any war in Kazakhstan... but, instead, it seems that GGG's elder brothers put him fight in the streets since early childhood... GGG started boxing at 8 yo...

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                  #48
                  2% of 100mil is more than most boxers will ever make in this business for actually fighting. This trainer is a baffoon. Get over yourself.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by TonyGe
                    It happened to Manny. Tommy Hearns left him over money. Only Manny didn't freak out in the press and do a character assassination on him. Manny unlike Sanchez had integrity. Then Sanchez has the balls to say he lost a son.
                    BOXING : Hearns Breaks Longtime Kronk Tie to Embark on Venture With Smith

                    September 15, 1990:

                    If boxing has ever had an indivisible team, it was based at Detroit's Kronk Gym.

                    Team Kronk. Its members weren't hard to spot--in airports, hotel lobbies or fight arenas. Everyone was decked out in red and gold jogging suits and matching gym bags.

                    And if any two Kronk members seemed inseparable, it was the team's founder, Emanuel Steward, and Kronk's top gun, Thomas Hearns.

                    No more. Hearns has left Steward and Kronk for, believe it or not, Harold Rossfields Smith of Los Angeles.

                    The Hearns-Steward split isn't pretty. The breakup came amid name-calling and messy charges over money and alleged dishonesty. But then, in boxing, this is news?

                    Steward accused Smith, the high-flying 1970s promoter who served 5 1/2 years in federal prison for embezzling $21.3 million from Wells Fargo Bank, of talking Hearns into leaving Kronk. In boxing, inducing a fighter to leave his manager is known as "buzzing."

                    Steward said: "Harold came into town (Detroit) a few weeks ago, told me he had a possible TV deal for Kronk fighters and that he needed some money to put it together."

                    "I gave him $11,000. I put his hotel bills and his rental car on my credit card, and I loaned him $1,000 in cash, so he could have some walking-around money. I've got receipts for everything.

                    "And the whole time, the . . . was two-timing me with Tommy behind my back."

                    Steward said Hearns left over a difference of opinion on whether Hearns, 31 and a pro since 1977, should retire. Hearns wouldn't say why he left Steward, only that he "wasn't happy."

                    "I wasn't in favor of Tommy fighting again unless he could get another (Sugar Ray) Leonard fight," Steward said. "I got out the films of his fights since the (James) Shuler fight in '86, and I could see clearly the deterioration in his ability.

                    "He knows I feel this way, and he disagrees. So now he talks only to Harold Smith. My attitude now (toward Hearns) is, 'Goodby, and good luck...' "

                    Many in boxing have urged Hearns to retire. His friends worry about his slurred speech. Since the 1986 one-round knockout of Shuler, he has seldom reminded anyone of the late 1970s and early 1980s welterweight who lit up boxing with numerous, sensational one-punch knockouts. Until he was stopped by Leonard in 1981, Hearns had knocked out 30 of 32 opponents.

                    Recent shaky performances--he was stopped by Iran Barkley in 1988 and seemed to have lost a lot in other appearances--are due to unhappiness, Hearns said this week.

                    "I haven't looked the same because I've been worried and unhappy; I haven't been able to give my all," he said.



                    Like I said...KARMA! It didn't go well for Tommy Hearns! Have you seen him lately? He makes Freddie Roach look like Brad Pitt!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by JcLazyX210
                      Anybody dumb enough to leave Emmanuel Steward reaps what they sow lol. However I get your point. However I don't feel like his trainer was honestly even all that good to warrant that new pay grade and GGG felt like the too. He's not poor he will be ok.
                      I just posted something to show, Hit Man didn't leave over money! Mr. Steward (R.I.P.) didn't want Hearns fighting anymore, unless it was a super fight, because he knew Tommy was deteriorating in front of his eyes! Those things happen!

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