Why not Joshua 2019? Did they say?

[SinderellaMan]

Alrighty then.....

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[Scipio2009]

Well, I somewhat agree thatbthatnis the scenario- but each side has equal responsibility here.

Hearn for the reasons you say, and Wilder Finkel for having an inflated opinion of his commercial value.
For Wilder and Finkel to expect a "split pot" as you put it is utterly unrealistic and unreasonable.
Yes, they'll probably both pay a financial price if it's not made - but it'll hurt Wilder's wallet more - the guy doesnt sell.

Only issue is that it's not an inflated opinion of their commercial value, a point helped along by the offer to Wilder going from $12m to $40m within a year's time.

We'll see how good Anthony Joshua sells; his US debut is less than a month away, and there's still 4k face value tickets at MSG (nevermind however many tickets resellers are still trying to unload).

Beyond that, Joshua is staring down the barrel of fighting Usyk next, with the Pulev coming shenanigans on deck; do you honestly think that folks are beating down the door to sit in the seats for those fights?

Wilder is growing his audience, slowly but surely, and the machine is starting to push the heck out of him. Profile after profile, leveraging many of the avenues open to Showtime/CBS, FOX/FS1 bigging him up whenever possible, urban radio pushing him, and then Wilder has a pretty darn good slate of fights set up for him too, without Joshua.

Wilder can still build a strong profile without Joshua; Joshua can't really say the same thing, especially with Joshua turning down $50m against half to not fight taking root here.

[j0zef]

It could be a negotiating tactic in hopes of making a winter fight, or they possibly see Fury-Wilder 2 on the horizon after this.

[Scipio2009]

So Wilder will turn his back on "one name, one face, one champion" and the chance to make his mark on history while earning an absolute fortune in the process .. just to spite Eddie Hearn?

He is a seriously dumb individual.

Deontay Wilder isn't hurting for money, so your fortune talk is relative.

Beyond that, Anthony Joshua isn't Eddie Hearn; Joshua has a window to secure his shot at maybe being the first billion dollar fighter, and as much as he likes working with Eddie, Joshua's management isn't going to let Eddie **** this up for something that has nothing to do with Anthony Joshua.

So yeah, Wilder's going to follow his own path; fight Breazeale, and if he wins, offer Joshua 50/50 on a fight (**** the $50m guarantee). Joshua passes, Wilder fights Ortiz on PPV, and if he wins, offer Joshua 50/50 again. If Joshua passes again, Wilder fights Kownacki or makes his mandatory defense on PPV.

Because let's see what's on the other side; Joshua beats Ruiz, turns down Wilder, and likely has to fight Usyk next (with Eddie Hearn having to again ask DAZN to pay $30m for a one-off fight). Joshua beats Usyk, turns down Wilder again, and then he's going to go into talks with Arum for his IBF mandatory against Pulev, lol. And he gets through that, he has the WBA mumbo jumbo to work through.

He beats Wilder on PPV, and beats Wilder in their rematch on PPV, and Anthony Joshua is a PPV star in the UK and US, with the world as his oyster for however long he can hold onto the undisputed heavyweight championship.

[Scipio2009]

Pathetic excuse that has been destroyed too many times now. Well here it is again...

DAZN have the right to bid more than what Showtime are willing to offer. If, however, Showtime put more money on the table than DAZN are willing to, then Hearn has said he has no problem with it going to Showtime.

Take this information in your head and keep it there troll. Don't make any more of your silly posts. They're boring.

Where is your proof that Anthony Joshua has signed anything where DAZN gets first/last offer to the US rights for Anthony Joshua's fights, lol?

[Scipio2009]

This was before Hearn found out about BT Sport being involved.

BT Sport hipped Haymon to the perceived value of the fight in the UK, you fool!

Haymon has very few actual connections selling TV in the UK so, like every other big US PPV fight, the event is going to be whole sold to a UK broadcaster (Sky Sports has the contract on Joshua) for them to do the work while Haymon/DiBella/Wilder get a lump sum into their pot.

Have you not watched boxing for even the last 10 years?

Mayweather-McGregor, Mayweather-Pacquiao, Mayweather-Canelo, etc; Sky Sports or BoxNation pays up for the flat fee, and then finds a way to cover the cost of the purchase (namely Box Office).

[kafkod]

Deontay Wilder isn't hurting for money, so your fortune talk is relative.

Beyond that, Anthony Joshua isn't Eddie Hearn; Joshua has a window to secure his shot at maybe being the first billion dollar fighter, and as much as he likes working with Eddie, Joshua's management isn't going to let Eddie **** this up for something that has nothing to do with Anthony Joshua.

So yeah, Wilder's going to follow his own path; fight Breazeale, and if he wins, offer Joshua 50/50 on a fight (**** the $50m guarantee). Joshua passes, Wilder fights Ortiz on PPV, and if he wins, offer Joshua 50/50 again. If Joshua passes again, Wilder fights Kownacki or makes his mandatory defense on PPV.

Because let's see what's on the other side; Joshua beats Ruiz, turns down Wilder, and likely has to fight Usyk next (with Eddie Hearn having to again ask DAZN to pay $30m for a one-off fight). Joshua beats Usyk, turns down Wilder again, and then he's going to go into talks with Arum for his IBF mandatory against Pulev, lol. And he gets through that, he has the WBA mumbo jumbo to work through.

He beats Wilder on PPV, and beats Wilder in their rematch on PPV, and Anthony Joshua is a PPV star in the UK and US, with the world as his oyster for however long he can hold onto the undisputed heavyweight championship.

You are living in a fantasy world mate, building castles in the clouds that have no foundation in reality. No point trying to discuss this with you if you are not going to be real about it.

[kafkod]

Where is your proof that Anthony Joshua has signed anything where DAZN gets first/last offer to the US rights for Anthony Joshua's fights, lol?

Matchroom are AJ's promoter. DAZN have right of first refusal to all fights promoted by Matchroom.

[Sid-Knee]

Where is your proof that Anthony Joshua has signed anything where DAZN gets first/last offer to the US rights for Anthony Joshua's fights, lol?

DAZN have it with all Matchroom fighters.

And why would AJ fight anywhere else if DAZN was offering the most money?

[Sid-Knee]

BT Sport hipped Haymon to the perceived value of the fight in the UK, you fool!

Haymon has very few actual connections selling TV in the UK so, like every other big US PPV fight, the event is going to be whole sold to a UK broadcaster (Sky Sports has the contract on Joshua) for them to do the work while Haymon/DiBella/Wilder get a lump sum into their pot.

Have you not watched boxing for even the last 10 years?

Mayweather-McGregor, Mayweather-Pacquiao, Mayweather-Canelo, etc; Sky Sports or BoxNation pays up for the flat fee, and then finds a way to cover the cost of the purchase (namely Box Office).

Wrong. They were going to put it to the highest bidder. Finkle said Sky could have it if they bid more than any other. You can find this piece on this very site. In fact, go to the main page and click of the thread for Wilder keeping the title in the US. Go to page 11 and see that I quote the WBC nut-job guy to see for yourself.