Al Haymon Slave Contract Revealed!!

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  • LacedUp
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    #61
    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
    Before I go any further. Do you believe Spence has the same contract with Haymon that Collazo does?
    So feelings. gotcha.

    moving on.

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      #62
      Originally posted by sicko
      ...What the fighter think?
      I'm not seeing Fighters taking Haymon to court and filing Law Suits against him

      Vanes Martyrosian wanted his release and got it with no issues. Also Beterbiev wanted his release and got it which helped him get out of a deal with Yvon Michel

      I know it is a little anti Haymon movement going on because he has a TON of talent that other promoters and platform wants so they think defaming his name will somehow make fighter up and leave him but it wont work. He treat fighters GREAT, has paid off Family Medical Bills for fighters, gotten guys out of TAX Issues among other things

      It is not a contracts that is making fighters loyal to him. So it really doesn't matter what Promoters and fans THINK because he don't work them, he work for the fighters and his fighters all seems very happy
      A manager should conflict with promotions. That's the Ali act.

      The manager's role is to maximize the fighters profit, the promoters role is to maximize his own.

      Those conflict.

      And so does Al Haymon. Otherwise he wouldn't reject his guys making more money elsewhere.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        You don't understand the job of managing it sounds like.

        You think Brad Pitt's manager is only getting him 15% of his films? Nah he's finding him & getting 15% of some Japanese beer ad check to. Same with Haymon.

        A promoter doing this is f#cked up. A manager doing it is standard.
        Do you believe it's right for a manager to have a network deal?

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          #64
          Originally posted by lolasif
          To be honest, I don't understand why anyone would sign with Haymon, and also stick with additonal managers and promoters. There was nothing in that contract shown to suggest it could be considered as a slave contract. Yes, a fighter would need written approval from the advisor to take a fight, but at the same time, the athlete can't be forced by the advisor to take a fight that they don't want.
          But they can't do anything without their masters approval.

          hence the slave contract.

          Pretty obvious.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            Naw, keeping a low profile has gotten him this far. He became the most successful music promoter in history and changed the way promotion companies work. He's become the most successful boxing manager in history and changed the boxing game. There is no benefit to him doing interviews for boxing fans. And you know we gotta keep a low profile and stay under the radar when we're that successful. We can't be out here like the Arum's & Hearns'.
            He's become the most wasteful boxing manager/promoter in history, wasting nearly a billion dollars in half a decade.

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              #66
              Originally posted by revelated
              Standard in ANY contract where you have a manager. It's not just boxing.

              NFL, NBA, all sports have similar clauses.

              I remember back when AFL and XFL were talking about breaking that and making open leagues where people could go wherever they wanted. Notice both of them failed miserably. (XFL coming back but without any of the nonsense this time).

              UFC fighters including McGregor can't just up and say "I am fighting so and so" - they have to clear it with Dana and if he says no, the fight isn't happening.
              You are high on crack if you think Conor McGregor has to get approval from his management team to make a fight.



              You have no clue about sports management at all.

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                #67
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                A manager should conflict with promotions. That's the Ali act.

                The manager's role is to maximize the fighters profit, the promoters role is to maximize his own.

                Those conflict.

                And so does Al Haymon. Otherwise he wouldn't reject his guys making more money elsewhere.
                Haymon has already "Maximized His Own" when he sold half of his Concert Promotion to Live Nation for A LOT of money.

                His story is well known about his Brother being a Boxer and him getting into boxing after seeing how his Brother was treated as a Boxer. Haymon doesn't "NEED BOXING" compared to these Promoters

                He helped make Mayweather the Wealthiest Boxer this sport has ever seen so his track record is PROVEN. He knows WTF he is doing while you have people on a forum trying to tell boxers what the should do and what deals that should take when they themselves don't even have their own sh#t together financially

                It is like someone FAT trying to tell people how to get in shape
                Last edited by sicko; 05-04-2019, 10:21 PM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by sicko
                  Haymon has already "Maximized His Own" when he sold half of his Concert Promoter to Live Nation for A LOT of money.

                  His story is well known about his Brother being a Boxer and him getting into boxing after seeing how his Brother was treated as a Boxer. Haymon doesn't "NEED BOXING" compared to these Promoters.

                  He helped make Mayweather the Wealthiest Boxer this sport has ever seen so his track record is PROVEN. He knows WTF he is doing while you have people on a forum trying to tell boxers what the should do and what deals that should take when they themselves don't even have their own sh#t together financially

                  It is like someone FAT trying to tell people how to get in shape
                  He spent 650million of investors money making fighters rich on mainly mismatches.

                  Genius!

                  There's literally a law against what he's doing, except he's hiding under the title 'advisor', which is quite clearly not accurate when he has a management contract.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    You are high on crack if you think Conor McGregor has to get approval from his management team to make a fight.



                    You have no clue about sports management at all.
                    McGregor could NOT fight Floyd without Dana's approval. It's documented.

                    You can ignore facts all you want, bro

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      McGregor could NOT fight Floyd without Dana's approval. It's documented.

                      You can ignore facts all you want, bro
                      Dana is NOT his manager, he's the UFC promoter.

                      And that right there is why Al Haymon is a slave master.

                      What he's doing is illegal.

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