Comments Thread For: Oscar De La Hoya: PPV is No Longer Alive Because of DAZN

[Oldskoolg]

Ppv isn't what it used to be because the ppv cards have lesser quality for the most part. Not like when Don King would have 3 high quality fights on 1 card. Instead we end up with a trash undercard and ppv main events that don't deliver like Canelo vs Chavez Jr, Crawford vs quitting khan, spence vs Garcia, and there aren't ppv stars that are household names worldwide.

This man has seen his share of boxing....I love it when people speak on here who actually are fans of the sport

[Fanofreason]

Actually it is Oscar and more people are paying $79 to watch people than the 50k people paying $20 to watch canelo

[The D3vil]

I still don't understand the sustainability of DAZN. While I am a reluctant subscriber, I don't get how guys like Canelo will increase his market by fighting exclusively on a monthly subscription boxing channel. Only hardcore fans of combat sports are going to pay for this, especially now when every network and studio is creating their own streaming channel. I think a mix of PPV and free TV is the right formula. Just lower the PPV prices.

This.

They're killing the sport by making it an exclusive.

I don't get why putting it on regular TV isn't economically viable. Guys like Muhammad Ali used to make lots of money fighting on TV and he was a bigger star because of it.

You think he becomes the iconic figure he becomes only fighting on PPV or now streaming?

Each generation of boxers are getting more and more irrelevant to the fans. There are less and less legitimate stars who can carry a card now

The '70s generation had Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Duran, Leonard, Monzon, Holmes, Norton

The '80s generation had Tyson, Hagler, Hearns, Spinks, JCC

The '90s generation had Holyfield, Bowe, Lennox, De La Hoya, Roy Jones, Whittaker, Toney, Hopkins, Prince Naseem, Trinidad

The 2000s generation had Mayweather, Pacquiao, & maybe Cotto (if you're Puerto Rican)

The 2010s has Canelo and somewhat GGG/Joshua/Wilder/Fury a little

The public does not know the rest of those people, seriously.

[Oshio]

It's only a matter of time PPV will be history in boxing

[Combat Talk Radio]

Lowering the price point of any product typically will increase demand.

And decrease quality, as evident by the WWE Network.

[LacedUp]

PBC shills out here happy that PPV exists

[LacedUp]

And decrease quality, as evident by the WWE Network.

You're getting Canelo vs Jacobs for free this weekend.
You got Crawford vs Khan and Spence vs Mikey lately.

None of the b-side fighters on the main fight or chief support won a single round.

So clearly what you're saying is BS.

[Death_Adder]

Because DAZN is failing they upped it to $20 per month.

Now that they signed GGG, the fan has to pay $80 per year (assumming they both fight twice a year and you cancel on the off months).

PBC has plenty of good fights and all you need is Showtime to see them all.

You're an idiot.

Streaming services go up in price all the the time, especially when they get more popular.

It's cheaper to watch fights on DAZN than Showtime + the added cost of PPVs.

$80 a year to watch Canelo, GGG, and Joshua and others (plus MMA and whatever else they have) fight multiple times per year vs $80 to watch ONE PPV?I

PPV is dead. Only idiots bought the Spence and Crawford mismatches. I streamed them, illegally, and laughed my ass off at the idiots that paid for that trash.

[thabanga510]

Until one of these apps can pay the fighter like a pay per view can, it is going no where. Fighters are more aware of how much money is in the pot and just throwing a big front end number at the more popular fighters isn't going to cut it.

[Caxcan]

Oscar is potentially undermining Mexican/Latino fighters with that remark considering Latinos make up the majority of ppv buyers thus they stand to benefit most from the continued success of that model. Even Floyd and Pac's audience was mostly Latino.

The fact that Spence-Garcia managed to sell 360k shows there's still money to be made there. No doubt Mikey was largely responsible for those sales and he's not even very established in the mainstream. So yes, there's an opportunity for another Mexican fighter to come along and fill the ppv star role left vacant by Canelo. (IMHO Teofimo is probably the non-Mexican fighter with the most potential to tap into that market like Floyd, Pac and GGG did. Maybe Spence too if he's able to capitalize on the momentum.)

At any rate, I'm not sure why people are quick to talk down DAZN considering if it's successful it will provide a platform and potential big paydays for fighters who may not have a built in audience like Mexicans. Keep in mind, Crawford has struggled gaining a ppv audience even with ESPN heavily promoting him-- and his struggle is mostly due to a limited fanbase that's fully invested in watching him rather than the failure of the ppv model itself. On a side note: it's baffling that Arum would put together a ppv event without at least including a few Mexicans on the undercard.