Comments Thread For: Spence: Arum's Desperate; He's Mad Because I Hold All the Cards

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  • Thaman2x
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    #71
    Originally posted by factsarenice
    Crawford is too dangerous at 147, pure and simple.
    You keep saying Crawford is too dangerous at 147...Based on what? A Mere Con and Jeff Horn?

    I mean, cmon.

    Bob Arum, after his tantrum in the ring about Spence, immediately thereafter, began talking about fighting Kell Brook, and totally DISMISSED a fight against Danny Garcia. I mean, let's be real here.

    There is no ducking. Spence will fight Bud. It's only a matter of Time. People swore Canelo was ducking GGG....He clearly wasn't. People swore Mayweather was ducking Pacquiao...He Clearly wasn't.

    Bottom line- Let's see what happens after these guys' next two fights. The demand for their fight will be overwhelming at that point, ESPECIALLY if Crawford absolutely dominates Kell Brook and Spence obliterates a difficult Porter.

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    • lefthandtruth
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      #72
      Originally posted by MC Hammer
      61 posts in almost 5 years. Be gone Alt!
      Nice of you to notice my life is 1000 times better than yours.

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      • kafkod
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        #73
        Originally posted by MC Hammer
        The man in your pictures literally did this when he said that he holds the cards over Wilder
        Fury already fought Wilder and beat him, in most people's eyes.

        There is no reason on earth why he should "cross the road" to fight him again when his own promoter is putting up more money for it.

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        • factsarenice
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          #74
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          Another unfortunate byproduct of living in an era where one loss will result in your social media followership disappearing and you're fighting for journeyman money again. I don't mind if this fight marinates one more year, I think that's where it will peak in terms of fan interest and PPV earnings. Beyond that it starts to move past it's sell-by date.
          Honestly, I think that's the plan. My understanding is that behind the scenes, Errol had trouble cutting weight for Garcia at 147. If that's true, which I believe it is, he'll move to 154 in 2020 and move toward Crawford for bigger money, terms and have the weight advantage. All of this is what I've been told but the guy is smart and seems to always have the inside perspective.

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          • lefthandtruth
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            #75
            Take it easy on Errol “Beauty Salon” Spence. He’s sensitive.

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            • Bronx2245
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              #76
              “I don’t think he wants to make the fight,” Spence said. “When you go out and you bash somebody, and then you say you’re gonna call him on Monday, but you’re bashing him on TV, how will somebody wanna talk to you? At the end of the day, they’re businessmen. But you’re human, too. If somebody just bashes you over and over and over and over, and then wanna come down and sit at the table and basically make a fight happen, how is that? I don’t see how you can make that happen.” - Errol SPence

              Errol is speaking "The Truth!" That stuff Bob said was very hurtful to the process, and you would think he should know better! However this is the same man who said Manny was "scared of needles," and had Manny signing "fake contracts!'

              Look no further than last year:

              Arum: If Mikey Garcia Doesn't Like Offer To Fight Loma - F*** It!

              "If [Garcia] wants to fight, let him call me and I'll give him a number. If he doesn't like the number - f*** it - I ain't negotiating! It's because of the way he negotiates. If he's loyal to Showtime and they've been good to him, let him be loyal to Showtime - just don't bother me."

              Top Rank's CEO Bob Arum has no intention of staging a long negotiation for a potential unification between newly crowned WBO lightweight champion Vasyl Lomachen


              Arum: Lomachenko Wants Mikey Garcia Fight Right After Pedraza

              Arum claims his company’s contentious history with Mikey Garcia won’t prohibit them from making a deal for a Lomachenko fight. Top Rank Inc. promoted Mikey Garcia for his first 34 fights, but a financial dispute led to Garcia buying himself out of his promotional contract in May 2016 and ultimately kept him out of the ring for 2˝ years.

              “The only conversation I had was with Robert,” Arum said. “I said, ‘Tell your brother to shut the ***** up. Lomachenko is fighting Pedraza in December. And if he wins, I promise you I’ll sit down with Mikey right after that fight and try to make a fight with Loma.’ That’s the best I can do. I’m not gonna sit [down with him] now and make the fight, when [Lomachenko] has a fight coming up.

              LAS VEGAS – Bob Arum had another conversation recently with Robert Garcia regarding his younger brother boxing Vasiliy Lomachenko. The Hall-of-Fame promoter exp


              It's almost like he does these things on purpose! He knows that type of talk is not going to make the fights happen, but he doesn't care, because his ego won't allow it! He hated that Floyd was in charge! He hates that Spence Jr. is in charge! He hates that Mikey is drawing 47K @ AT&T! He hates that he lost all those court dates with Mikey and Al Haymon! Terence Crawford, follow the blueprint: Oscar, Floyd, Cotto, Mikey, and Manny! You know what time it is!

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              • factsarenice
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                #77
                1st) Dannny was offered 4 mil vs Crawford and instead took 1 mil for a nobody. Garcia camp didn't counter 7-10-20 mill, nothing crickets. What's that tell you? If any other fighter on the planet did that it would be called a duck. Danny doesn't want Crawford.

                Originally posted by Thaman2x
                You keep saying Crawford is too dangerous at 147...Based on what? A Mere Con and Jeff Horn?

                I mean, cmon.

                Bob Arum, after his tantrum in the ring about Spence, immediately thereafter, began talking about fighting Kell Brook, and totally DISMISSED a fight against Danny Garcia. I mean, let's be real here.

                There is no ducking. Spence will fight Bud. It's only a matter of Time. People swore Canelo was ducking GGG....He clearly wasn't. People swore Mayweather was ducking Pacquiao...He Clearly wasn't.

                Bottom line- Let's see what happens after these guys' next two fights. The demand for their fight will be overwhelming at that point, ESPECIALLY if Crawford absolutely dominates Kell Brook and Spence obliterates a difficult Porter.

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                • Floyd is TBE
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                  #78
                  Spence is a smart kid. Everything he's been saying, I agree with. He's got options, Crawford doesn't. And Spence is clearly the bigger draw at the moment. Arum talking 50/50 and co-ppvs is a joke. Al Haymon runs boxing now, Arum has to do what he says.

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                  • lefthandtruth
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                    #79
                    Errol “Beauty Salon” Spence needs to fight Crawford, or commit to his beauty salon full time

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                    • Thaman2x
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by factsarenice
                      1st) Dannny was offered 4 mil vs Crawford and instead took 1 mil for a nobody. Garcia camp didn't counter 7-10-20 mill, nothing crickets. What's that tell you? If any other fighter on the planet did that it would be called a duck. Danny doesn't want Crawford.
                      First of all, DSG was offered $3million, directly, by Bob Arum. Arum never sent anything Haymons way. Bob knows the business and knows Haymon well enough to know that all business proceedings and offers for a fight go through Him

                      Secondly, how is it that DSG wants Spence, but doesn't want Crawford???

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