Comments Thread For: Spence: Arum's Desperate; He's Mad Because I Hold All the Cards

[Robertthebruce]

Spence Is behaving like a diva. He is crapping himself with regards to Crawford and wants to fight easier boxers like Pac and porter. Porter should tell Spence to get lost or say 80-20 for the unification or no fight. The guys a joke

[factsarenice]

Damage people for a living but not if their feelings get hurt? A transparent attempt to make this about promoters and away from the fact that Spence is simply ducking Crawford...again.

“I don’t think he wants to make the fight,” Spence said. “When you go out and you bash somebody, and then you say you’re gonna call him on Monday, but you’re bashing him on TV, how will somebody wanna talk to you? At the end of the day, they’re businessmen. But you’re human, too. If somebody just bashes you over and over and over and over, and then wanna come down and sit at the table and basically make a fight happen, how is that? I don’t see how you can make that happen.” - Errol SPence

Errol is speaking "The Truth!" That stuff Bob said was very hurtful to the process, and you would think he should know better! However this is the same man who said Manny was "scared of needles," and had Manny signing "fake contracts!'

Look no further than last year:

Arum: If Mikey Garcia Doesn't Like Offer To Fight Loma - F*** It!

"If [Garcia] wants to fight, let him call me and I'll give him a number. If he doesn't like the number - f*** it - I ain't negotiating! It's because of the way he negotiates. If he's loyal to Showtime and they've been good to him, let him be loyal to Showtime - just don't bother me."

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-if-...chenko--128171

Arum: Lomachenko Wants Mikey Garcia Fight Right After Pedraza

Arum claims his company’s contentious history with Mikey Garcia won’t prohibit them from making a deal for a Lomachenko fight. Top Rank Inc. promoted Mikey Garcia for his first 34 fights, but a financial dispute led to Garcia buying himself out of his promotional contract in May 2016 and ultimately kept him out of the ring for 2½ years.

“The only conversation I had was with Robert,” Arum said. “I said, ‘Tell your brother to shut the ***** up. Lomachenko is fighting Pedraza in December. And if he wins, I promise you I’ll sit down with Mikey right after that fight and try to make a fight with Loma.’ That’s the best I can do. I’m not gonna sit [down with him] now and make the fight, when [Lomachenko] has a fight coming up.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-lom...edraza--131964

It's almost like he does these things on purpose! He knows that type of talk is not going to make the fights happen, but he doesn't care, because his ego won't allow it! He hated that Floyd was in charge! He hates that Spence Jr. is in charge! He hates that Mikey is drawing 47K @ AT&T! He hates that he lost all those court dates with Mikey and Al Haymon! Terence Crawford, follow the blueprint: Oscar, Floyd, Cotto, Mikey, and Manny! You know what time it is!

[factsarenice]

Andre Ward, Roy Jones & every HOFer agree Crawford is the MOST dangerous at 147. Either they or you have an agenda against the best fighting the best. Hmmmm???

You keep saying Crawford is too dangerous at 147...Based on what? A Mere Con and Jeff Horn?

I mean, cmon.

Bob Arum, after his tantrum in the ring about Spence, immediately thereafter, began talking about fighting Kell Brook, and totally DISMISSED a fight against Danny Garcia. I mean, let's be real here.

There is no ducking. Spence will fight Bud. It's only a matter of Time. People swore Canelo was ducking GGG....He clearly wasn't. People swore Mayweather was ducking Pacquiao...He Clearly wasn't.

Bottom line- Let's see what happens after these guys' next two fights. The demand for their fight will be overwhelming at that point, ESPECIALLY if Crawford absolutely dominates Kell Brook and Spence obliterates a difficult Porter.

[factsarenice]

Eventually Spence will demand it matter of pride last belt and best WW in the world rights. Trying to think of last true WW undefeated in there PRIMES who are also both in top 10 PFP current . Oscar/ Trinidad? Last ?

Spence will escape to 154...mark my words. He'll try to make Crawford move to 154 to make him even lighter in the azz and gain a bigger advantage.

[Mister Wolf]

Spence Is behaving like a diva. He is crapping himself with regards to Crawford and wants to fight easier boxers like Pac and porter. Porter should tell Spence to get lost or say 80-20 for the unification or no fight. The guys a joke

Dont be surprised if Pac tells Spence to go **** himself and fights Mikey. When Spence cries about it Pac will say Mikey is the one that sold the PPV and he can make more money with him.

[MC Hammer]

Fury already fought Wilder and beat him, in most people's eyes.

There is no reason on earth why he should "cross the road" to fight him again when his own promoter is putting up more money for it.

Morale victories are for minor league coaches. He didn't win, look at the record. He doesn't have the belt. And him and his promoter aren't even looking to have the fight next if Wilder signed to ESPN. That 12th rd probably knocked him into a relapse and his family and trainer are scared for him.

Also, if that's your logic then there is no reason for Spence to cross the road when belts and money are on his side.

[LostOne]

He is taking a little too much credit for those numbers against Mikey. I would even say Mikey probably has a better claim to those numbers than Spence does. Let's see how good his numbers are against someone like Porter then he can talk about leverage.

[CocoonOfHorror]

I like both Crawford and Spence, though I prefer Spence. But I can't back him here.

Spence wants to compare 400k PPV buys vs. Mikey to the 150k of Crawford-Khan. But (1) Mikey brings a substantial Mexican audience, (2) many "experts" said Mikey would beat Spence and it would be an historic boxing night ala Duran over Leonard so there was a major FOMO angle in the media, and (3) Khan is past his prime and everyone knows it.

There's a major risk in putting Spence-Porter on PPV. If it does under 200k buys, it weakens PBC bargaining power with Top Rank.

[P4Pdunny]

He just told you why in the interview

Captain obvious here...

[GhostofDempsey]

This statement is the reason you don't get the fights you want. People lose then you say their stock plummets, alright then why take the more difficult fight? Crawford doesn't bring a fanbase that Errol doesn't already have plus more so what is the point of splitting the money 50/50 and then taking a cut because ESPN has to get theirs too? Especially when fighting Danny brings the PR fans and a bigger event. Thurman and Porter both offer belts and Thurman a bigger fan base too.

Don't blame me, you can thank Floyd for that current trend. He was so obsessed with preserving that "0", that he went into low-risk/high-reward mode and used other fighter's losses against them as leverage. He made the zero in the loss column more important than the substance of a fighter's resume and quality of their opposition. All the PBC fans now judge fighters accordingly.