Comments Thread For: Spence: Arum's Desperate; He's Mad Because I Hold All the Cards

[j.razor]

Crawford is far too dangerous at 147, Spence needs to avoid Crawford & move up in 2020. Spence needs to remain undefeated and move up to 154 in 2020. That's the plan, period. Now you can say you now know the plan too.

More like save the best for last. Errol wants Bud & Bud wants Errol but bob don't.

[j.razor]

Spence shouldn't play the race card but it's not him it's Al Haymon, it's all he's got to explain why Spence refuses to fight Crawford. The key, the idea, is to keep the conversation about Arum vs Haymon and not Spence avoiding Crawford.

Your confusing yourself. bob is the problem, get it, got it? Good.

[j.razor]

this is why u gotta salute ODLH. he was the only PPV attraction to NEVER marinate a damn thing. Oscar fought em all at their peak!

Tito PRIME
Shane PRIME
Vargas PRIME
Quartey PRIME
Hopkins PRIME
Floyd PRIME
Manny PRIME

Oscar held all the cards throughout his whole career and never made fans beg or wait for anything

I would of liked to see Ronald "Winky" Wright with Oscar.

[j.razor]

Fact...Spence is move to 154 in 2020...like it or not he can't make weight. BUT he needs to remain undefeated and Crawford at 147 is simply too dangerous.

Sounds like that's YOUR wish.

[j.razor]

The business...model is remain undefeated at 147 and move to 154 in 2020. Call out Crawford for peanuts with a weight advantage. To a business man it's smart, to a boxing fan it's a duck.

Question: Are you about business or about the best fighting the best? Can't have it both ways.

Yes you can, T.B.E. did it

[kafkod]

This is an odd way of assessing the situation. Bob overpaid crawford to re-sign with a year left on his deal and said he'd make the fight when it was a big PPV. Haymon is planning on matching Spence with Porter. the IBF champ in a unfication, and then the winner of Thurman/Manny in another unification.

How is making unification fights that move the division forward equate to blocking another unification fight that moves the division forward?

Crawford vs Spence is the WW unification fight, the one every boxing fan wants to see while both are in their prime. Crawford is 32 already, and call me cynical, but I can't help suspecting that letting Bud slide over the hill before fighting him is part the PBC plan, and that the plan for Errol might be to move him up to 154 without ever risking his 0 against Crawford.

Yes, it would be a bigger fight, financially, if it was for all 4 belts. But how many matches, rematches, and long periods of sitting out doing nothing are we going to see from the PBC guys before all the belts on their side of the road are unified?

[j.razor]

Bottom line, Spence is ducking Crawford, period.

Either your about business or about the best fighting the best? Can't have it both ways.

bob is ducking Errol & T.B.E. did it both ways by beating everybody & getting the money.

[The Big Dunn]

Crawford vs Spence is the WW unification fight, the one every boxing fan wants to see while both are in their prime. Crawford is 32 already, and call me cynical, but I can't help suspecting that letting Bud slide over the hill before fighting him is part the PBC plan, and that the plan for Errol might be to move him up to 154 without ever risking his 0 against Crawford.

Yes, it would be a bigger fight, financially, if it was for all 4 belts. But how many matches, rematches, and long periods of sitting out doing nothing are we going to see from the PBC guys before all the belts on their side of the road are unified?

Respectfully, if you feel this way then you should be skewering Arum for blocking the fight because that huge offer to Crawford for re-signing with TR was done specifically to block Haymon from making him an offer when his deal was up.

We are not seeing delays from PBC WW"s, other than Thurman who was legitimately hurt. Spence fought Mikey to build his name on PPV-which needs to happen to make the Crawford fight financially viable. He is next slated to fight Porter and then the winner of Thurman/Manny, then he may have a mando to get out of the way.

If it takes more than a year to make how is it possible to fault Spence for fighting other ww champions and not Crawford for taking the money and staying with TR, knowing Bob wouldn't make the fight until it was a "big PPV".

You are essentially faulting Spence for doing his part to meet Bob's "big PPV" requirement.

[j.razor]

The last Welterweight Title Unified Undisputed championship of fighters in their Primes and also top 10 PFP of fighters during that time WBA, WBC, IBF major belts of the day SUGAR RAY vs HEARNS. Primes Oscar/ Trinidad any otters of top of fans heads? Floyd fought Manny 6 years late. Manny OUT of prime

You mean Manny fought Floyd 6 years late.

[j.razor]

Spence is planning on doing what AJ has done in the HW division, go after the belts. So as long as he fights Porter and Thurman or Pac he's good. But Spence better not start taking mandatory fights over title fights. He better make good on his word. I still believe Spence beats Crawford. Crawford has two flaws in his game he tends to swing wild in exchanges and he stands straight up with his hands out when he back peddles same thing that Wilder does. And for Spence I don't know how well he can deal with a slick fighter with movement. Which is why this match-up is a good one. The thing that sucks for Crawford is that he doesn't have any good options whereas Spence has more.

We're all forgetting one thing though MONEY TALKS! I believe if Bob Arum made Spence a offer he couldn't refuse we'll get the Spence-Crawford fight. That's Crawford's best bet. Bob should make Spence a solid offer so we can get this debate over with already lol

That is the WHOLE problem right there! bob WON'T.