All I can say is wow! Wow because some of these comments show just how feeble your brains are! Start trying to commend fighters first and foremost for stepping in the ring at all. Also get out of your OWN feelings cause **** don't happen your way. If the fighters want to call one another cowards or say they're being ducked, that's on them. When a grown ass man get on these forums to repeat those sentiments, that's a whole different monster. TC or ESJ are warriors and both deserve warriors respect. Anybody who steps in a ring deserves as much from you, me or any other spectateur not these female sounding rants about cowards and such. Support these brothers into history. Try supporting one another to greatness . Quit always trying to tear someone down. Both are great at what they do and as a lower of the sport and my brothers I want to see them both do great! I will continue to support, not only TC and Spence but all my warrior brothers who put it on the line! Hope you join us in that regard
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostI'm not picking sides, just explaining what's happening.
I don't care about the business, I also want the best fighting the best, but I'm just being realistic and explaining to you what's happening.
Spence is also being realistic, he knows Haymon/Showtime/Fox won't let him fight Crawford on ESPN, he also knows Bob Arum/ESPN won't let Bud fight him on Showtime/Fox.
The only way for the fight to happen is a co-promotion, and the only way for that is for one of either Spence/Crawford to become a mega star, enter Spence/Porter and Spence vs Thurman/Pac.
Resume is the only way to gain popularity bruh. Beat the good guys, and that, whether you want to accept it or not, is what is needed for a co-promotion like that to happen. Canelo fought Trout, Mayweather, Lara, Cotto, and Golovkin to get to where he is.
The other day Spence complained about how Crawford is being promoted, or not promoted enough. He actually wants Crawford to be promoted well just like him because he recognises that the two of them has to be big business wise and not just boxing wise for the networks and promoters to get together for a co-promotion.
Also, you have to look at the objectives of the fighters. The good thing that makes it clear that the fight will happen is that both fighters want to be undisputed. They have stated that as their objective from the start and that hasn't changed. To be undisputed you have to get all the belts, so they will have to see each other.
Fighting Crawford now not only doesn't make sense for Spence financial/business wise but also politically.
Take a good look at the landscape and tell me how many PBC fighters are holding the WBO belt right now?
You'll be hard pressed to find any. Even Mayweather couldn't hold on to the belt after he won it from Pac and had to drop it soon after.
If Spence beats Crawford now and wins the WBO, he'll likely have to drop it again before unifying the division and have to fight for it AGAIN to become undisputed. But if he fights for it last, then it doesn't matter coz he'll be moving up soon anyway and he'll have had the status of undisputed champion.
I'm not defending Spence or Crawford, I understand that Crawford will be fighting mediocre opposition in the meantime (not his fault) and therefore has to make some noise. It's actually good for their fight if he keeps calling out Spence and making it look like Spence is scared of him. It's working, people are paying attention and jumping on the bandwagon. He needs that, the fight needs that.
I repeat, neither of these guys are scared of each other. The fight will happen in 2020. Enjoy the good fights (Thurman vs Pacman, Spence vs Porter, and winners of those fights against each other).
Be greatful for the Spence vs Porter and Thurman vs Pacman fights being made because it means that the Spence vs Crawford fight is getting closer to being made. PBC is lined up perfectly and PBC is ready to clean itself out. The sooner that happens the sooner you get the fight you want, the fight we all want.
Spence isn't avoiding Crawford so that he can fight bums, he's cleaning out a stacked stable so that the Crawford fight can be made.
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😤 Errol Spence: “It’s strap season. I’mma knock Shawn Porter out, and then if Keith Thurman and Manny Pacquiao fight, I’mma get the winner of that and knock them out too. And then we won’t be talking about no 50/50 split [with Terence Crawford].”
— Michael Benson (@MichaelBensonn) April 28, 2019
Hmm..
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Originally posted by Bronx23 View PostYou're the worst kind of boxing "fan" and you're part of what's killing boxing. We gotta stop supporting these ****** ideologies in boxing that many people are falling to. As a true fan you should be pushing for all these promoters to work together to give us the best fights. Not picking sides and being a network/promotional cheerleader. I don't understand what's wrong y'all. Boxing would be so much better with fans supporting nonsense like this.
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Originally posted by Sledgeweather17 View PostI'm not picking sides, just explaining what's happening.
I don't care about the business, I also want the best fighting the best, but I'm just being realistic and explaining to you what's happening.
Spence is also being realistic, he knows Haymon/Showtime/Fox won't let him fight Crawford on ESPN, he also knows Bob Arum/ESPN won't let Bud fight him on Showtime/Fox.
The only way for the fight to happen is a co-promotion, and the only way for that is for one of either Spence/Crawford to become a mega star, enter Spence/Porter and Spence vs Thurman/Pac.
Resume is the only way to gain popularity bruh. Beat the good guys, and that, whether you want to accept it or not, is what is needed for a co-promotion like that to happen. Canelo fought Trout, Mayweather, Lara, Cotto, and Golovkin to get to where he is.
The other day Spence complained about how Crawford is being promoted, or not promoted enough. He actually wants Crawford to be promoted well just like him because he recognises that the two of them has to be big business wise and not just boxing wise for the networks and promoters to get together for a co-promotion.
Also, you have to look at the objectives of the fighters. The good thing that makes it clear that the fight will happen is that both fighters want to be undisputed. They have stated that as their objective from the start and that hasn't changed. To be undisputed you have to get all the belts, so they will have to see each other.
Fighting Crawford now not only doesn't make sense for Spence financial/business wise but also politically.
Take a good look at the landscape and tell me how many PBC fighters are holding the WBO belt right now?
You'll be hard pressed to find any. Even Mayweather couldn't hold on to the belt after he won it from Pac and had to drop it soon after.
If Spence beats Crawford now and wins the WBO, he'll likely have to drop it again before unifying the division and have to fight for it AGAIN to become undisputed. But if he fights for it last, then it doesn't matter coz he'll be moving up soon anyway and he'll have had the status of undisputed champion.
I'm not defending Spence or Crawford, I understand that Crawford will be fighting mediocre opposition in the meantime (not his fault) and therefore has to make some noise. It's actually good for their fight if he keeps calling out Spence and making it look like Spence is scared of him. It's working, people are paying attention and jumping on the bandwagon. He needs that, the fight needs that.
I repeat, neither of these guys are scared of each other. The fight will happen in 2020. Enjoy the good fights (Thurman vs Pacman, Spence vs Porter, and winners of those fights against each other).
Be greatful for the Spence vs Porter and Thurman vs Pacman fights being made because it means that the Spence vs Crawford fight is getting closer to being made. PBC is lined up perfectly and PBC is ready to clean itself out. The sooner that happens the sooner you get the fight you want, the fight we all want.
Spence isn't avoiding Crawford so that he can fight bums, he's cleaning out a stacked stable so that the Crawford fight can be made.
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Originally posted by Calibaloc View PostI thinks it's hilarious how these black haters will back another black man in Crawford,just because he is promoted by someone who is NOT black in Arum. If Al Haymons was white, you cowards would be lapping up his Jizz on here every chance y'all got. It's not a coincidence that the PBC haters use terms such as "Slave contract" among others when you talk about Haymon. Your lives must suck. Would hate to be you smh.They are in no way, shape, or form, Crawford fans. It's pathetic.
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View PostI noticed that as well. They're not rooting for Crawford. They're rooting for Bob Arum over Al HaymonThey are in no way, shape, or form, Crawford fans. It's pathetic.
Last edited by Calibaloc; 04-29-2019, 01:03 AM.
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Most likely this fight will eventually happen. Right now it is a "fans" fight and not a mega fight that will attract the much needed casuals. Time is not on Bud's side and Spence will probably move up to 154 before long. There is no ducking on either side. It's just the business side of boxing rearing it's ugly head again!
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Originally posted by Thaman2x View PostWhat sense does it make to sign with a promoter that arguably no one likes and wants to do business with, especially when you are moving up to welterweight, and all the key fights are at welterweight??
TC screwed himself over, and all this yelling on behalf of his manager and his promoter to get Spence is a sure indication that they have ZERO other opponents worth mentioning to fight.
Don't get me wrong...I'd love to see Spence/Crawford...But Spence has an opportunity to get all the belts with the exception of the WBO, with fights in house. Why wouldn't he go that route? If not Spence, who does crawford fight next?
I'll tell you what- show me a Bob Arum that's willing to play ball in terms of network dealings, WITH an apology to Al Haymon, and I'll show you a fight that gets made by the end of the year.
If he beat Crawford everyone would think he was the top dog at 147 and it would increase his fight purse alot.
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