Spence vs Porter Close to Being Finalized, Will Not be on PPV?

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  • killakali
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    #61
    Originally posted by KTFOKING
    LOL, about 50k more? So funny how YOU round Crawford/Khan to 200k. I guess if you want to do that, we can round Spence/Garcia to 400k right? Since all reports were it did around 350-400k, and then Iole said 360k while Coppinger said it could reach 380-400k.

    So you think Spence/Porter does 300k? Okay cool, so then that does damn near double Crawford/Khan. Either way, you agree that fight does better numbers.

    Oh, so now the real number for Wilder/Fury was 291k eh? Okay, then the real number for Crawford/Khan was then closer to 100k opposed to 150k? I mean you got Hearn telling everyone at fights that fight did 100k.

    If the purses for Wilder/Breazeale are going to be around 20M, no way is SHO only paying 5-7M of that. No way in hell is that the case. Are you kidding? It was on SHO to to get this fight on their network after seeing what ESPN and DAZN offered Wilder for Breazeale. Finkel said they were happy enough with SHO's offer and Arum mentioned SHO matched their offer for that fight. You think Haymon is going to just spend 13-15M out of his own money for that fight? GTFO, if that was the case he would have just put it on PPV.

    Spence's guarantee according to Idec was 9M while Garcia's was 8.5M. Spence likely walked away with 10 or so million for that fight. Of course he's not getting that much for Porter. Even if it was on PPV he would have received a smaller guarantee. But is it crazy to think SHO will put say a 10-12M license fee for that fight? No, that's possible since it's not like they have had many big money cards thus far.

    Spence vs Thurman if he beats Pacquiao absolutely sells on PPV. It goes without saying Spence sells against Pacquiao. You admitted he would sell more PPVs vs Porter than Crawford did against Khan...And after Crawford did such terrible numbers against Khan, TR isn't putting him on PPV anytime soon. So he will be fighting on ESPN+ for the next two or three fights while Spence will get in at least one more PPV, if not two more during that stretch.

    Spence himself said why would I split 50/50 with Crawford when I doubled his PPV buys? Do you think Arum doesn't know that? There is a reason he asked for 50/50 right off the bat knowing damn well his fighter doesn't have a case for that. The split as time goes on isn't going to all of a sudden get closer. Spence is going to separate his name and star value from Crawford.
    If u think showtime is putting a
    20 mil license fee that’s some powerful meth u are smoking. With 10-12 shows a year and most tripleheaders and a 60 mil budget just do the math. They can’t even pay more than 5 mil PER SHO on average.

    Haymon is digging into his own pocket but remember his pockets are lined with that Waddell and Reed investment money. It’s not coming out of his personal stash.

    It’s a massive overpay but one he had to do to keep wilder from going to DAZN.

    Rick glazer said khan Crawford was 179k ppvs and hes always on the Low end. Not sure why u are saying it did closer to 100k than 150k. No one is saying that.

    Glad you are finally agreeing that Spence on his own isn’t a ppv draw and that a fight vs Porter would flop and that’s why it’s not on ppv.

    Too bad he doesn’t have a Mexican oponente like money who probably did 200-250k of those buys himself.

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    • The3
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      #62
      Good now all I want to see is VADA testing for this

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      • Larry the boss
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        #63
        Originally posted by OnlyBeingHonest
        It's amazing how most in this thread is happy Spence isn't on ppv, rather than being appreciative of getting a good fight for free.....only boxing fans smh
        hilarious aint it

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        • KTFOKING
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          #64
          Originally posted by killakali
          If u think showtime is putting a
          20 mil license fee that’s some powerful meth u are smoking. With 10-12 shows a year and most tripleheaders and a 60 mil budget just do the math. They can’t even pay more than 5 mil PER SHO on average.

          Haymon is digging into his own pocket but remember his pockets are lined with that Waddell and Reed investment money. It’s not coming out of his personal stash.

          It’s a massive overpay but one he had to do to keep wilder from going to DAZN.

          Rick glazer said khan Crawford was 179k ppvs and hes always on the Low end. Not sure why u are saying it did closer to 100k than 150k. No one is saying that.

          Glad you are finally agreeing that Spence on his own isn’t a ppv draw and that a fight vs Porter would flop and that’s why it’s not on ppv.

          Too bad he doesn’t have a Mexican oponente like money who probably did 200-250k of those buys himself.
          LOL, when did I say SHO is putting up a 20 million license fee? I said you are crazy if you think Haymon is putting 13-15M of his own money. SHO will have to "show" the money in this case. They know what the competing offers were.

          Hahahahahahaha at you using Glazer as your source. GTFO, that is a guy that admitted he gauges PPV interest by how many of his facebook friends buy the fight. Guys like Pugmire/Iole/Coppinger/Idec are the ones that report the numbers. Don't try to say Crawford/Khan did 200k buys and then try to say Wilder/Fury did 291k buys. If you want to say Wilder/Fury did 291k buys, then use 100k number that Hearn keeps throwing out in that case.

          Huh? I said Spence/Porter would do more than Crawford/Khan which you admitted. I said Spence will continue getting fights where his value will only increase and his A-side status will only get more clear. I said Spence/Garcia were on equal star level going into that fight and Spence emerged as the bigger star.

          Don't worry about not having a Mexican opponent, he will do just fine on PPV against the winner of Pacquiao/Thurman.

          In the mean time Crawford will be fighting exactly who on PPV? Especially after this PPV bombed, he's not getting back on anytime soon unless Al lends Bob one of his WWs and you know that. I mean I guess Arum can try to put Crawford vs Ramirez on PPV?

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          • Mooshashi
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            #65
            Originally posted by icha
            good fight, but spence isnt ready for ppv yet, neither for a stadium, imo...
            He just fought in a stadium. I was at the fight and I am fairly sure it was in a stadium. Where the Cowboys play.

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            • icha
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              #66
              Originally posted by Mooshashi
              He just fought in a stadium. I was at the fight and I am fairly sure it was in a stadium. Where the Cowboys play.
              yeah, he fought mikey, but spence by him self isnt ready yet...
              he will not fight porter in a stadium nor on ppv for a reason...

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