Spence vs Porter Close to Being Finalized, Will Not be on PPV?

[bulldognyc]

Seen Spence and porter multiple times in New York and went out to see Spence in Dallas. Spence is a star. People are attracted to him period. I was in the crowd in Coney Island, Barclays and Dallas, dude has a huge following in both cities. I’ve seen porter multiple times in Brooklyn as well. And after seeing no one show up to his fight vs ugas, he should always be on the east coast. Although I know the boxers hate that New York tax.

[killakali]

Then Mikey's next fight should be on PPV right since he sold most of the buys?

Or it could mean SHO or FOX will put a big enough lincense fee for the fight that would be comparable to it being on PPV.

Or it can be that FOX isn't satisfied with the ratings dip and want a big fight ASAP.

Or finally it could be that SHO has a plenty of money in their budget since they haven't had one big money card yet and want to get back in the game.

no Mikey lost the fight so he shouldn’t be back on ppv.

PBC are protecting Spence from being exposed. Fox could have just paid for Spence vs Mikey to be on fox.

You said spence is a bigger star now so he should sell more ppvs but Haymon knows vs Porter would sell around the same as Crawford khan. With 50k buys. He doesn’t want their numbers to be that close.

I wonder if Spence vs porter on showtime would do 1 million views.

[KTFOKING]

With equal promotion Mikey vs Danny would do better on PPV than Spence vs Porter. Thats with the latter being a unification too.

That's an interesting fair comparison, but I'd go with Spence/Porter doing more.

Spence vs Garcia probably does more than Spence vs Porter though.

[KTFOKING]

no Mikey lost the fight so he shouldn’t be back on ppv.

PBC are protecting Spence from being exposed. Fox could have just paid for Spence vs Mikey to be on fox.

You said spence is a bigger star now so he should sell more ppvs but Haymon knows vs Porter would sell around the same as Crawford khan. With 50k buys. He doesn’t want their numbers to be that close.

I wonder if Spence vs porter on showtime would do 1 million views.

Should sell more than 360k buys? No, that's not how it works. Spence did become a bigger star than Mikey after the fight, that much is true.

And if Spence/Porter does a million on SHO, then that puts him on par with Wilder. Would raise his views from like 650-700k to a million.

Does Spence vs Porter do more buys than Crawford vs Khan?

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

Streaming is so clean nowadays bruh.

I’ll have to try it out again. I always run into some type of issue I even upgraded my internet to 80mbps. So you never experience any lagging?

[THEFRESHBRAWLER]

It's amazing how most in this thread is happy Spence isn't on ppv, rather than being appreciative of getting a good fight for free.....only boxing fans smh

Lol right! They always find something to complain and argue about and most of the time it’s stuff that’s irrelevant

[BoxingIsGreat]

I thought Spence was an A side ppv star. Now without Garcia's mexican fanbase he is back on regular tv?

Or maybe they wanna expose him to a larger audience for free. I would've liked it better if it were against Danny Garcia on Fox. I hope we never have any more PPVs.

[Gpabrooklyn]

Some of you are so slow I swear,this has nothing to do with who's a ppv star there ain't no damn ppv stars anymore,it's just smart busniess,pbc was supposed to be free boxing so if you have a ppv every fight people will stop supporting,you have a ppv then give the fans a free good fight and they will be more willing to pay for the next ppv,Spence and Garcia sold the fight,they fanbases are about equal and they do about the same ratings on tv

[killakali]

Should sell more than 360k buys? No, that's not how it works. Spence did become a bigger star than Mikey after the fight, that much is true.

And if Spence/Porter does a million on SHO, then that puts him on par with Wilder. Would raise his views from like 650-700k to a million.

Does Spence vs Porter do more buys than Crawford vs Khan?

thats what I said. Spence porter is right around Crawford Khan despite being on paper a more competitive fight. Spence Porter is a. 200-250k ppv at best.

But Haymon knows that and doesn’t want Spence to do those low numbers knowing he isn’t really a big star or Ppv fighter at least yet.

That will lose leverage for a potential Crawford fight. That’s why he is dipping into his own pockets losing several million for wilder Breazeale to be in showtime.

If it was ppv and did 80k buys it ruins his bargaining power with Fury and AJ.

Haymon is just creating an illusion for people like u who think he’s a big star and sold the ppvs vs Mikey when the fact that a bigger unification fight vs porter likely won’t be on ppv tells u the exact opposite.

As for showtime doing a million views would put him on or with Broner. Still behind wilder who’s more like 1.2-1.4 mil

[KTFOKING]

thats what I said. Spence porter is right around Crawford Khan despite being on paper a more competitive fight. Spence Porter is a. 200-250k ppv at best.

But Haymon knows that and doesn’t want Spence to do those low numbers knowing he isn’t really a big star or Ppv fighter at least yet.

That will lose leverage for a potential Crawford fight. That’s why he is dipping into his own pockets losing several million for wilder Breazeale to be in showtime.

If it was ppv and did 80k buys it ruins his bargaining power with Fury and AJ.

Haymon is just creating an illusion for people like u who think he’s a big star and sold the ppvs vs Mikey when the fact that a bigger unification fight vs porter likely won’t be on ppv tells u the exact opposite.

As for showtime doing a million views would put him on or with Broner. Still behind wilder who’s more like 1.2-1.4 mil

If it does around 250k, then it would have done more than Crawford/Khan....By damn near 100k. There is nothing from this point on until the two fight that will hurt Spence's leverage minus catching an actual loss or looking super mediocre. But even looking mediocre won't if he just beats the top opponents, that will be bigger names than Crawford's opponents. After Crawford/Khan completely tanked, Bob can't put him on PPV against anyone put Spence or any other PBC fighter. Once Spence gets the winner of Thurman/Pac on PPV, it will obviously be a complete wrap. But I'm pretty damn confident Spence/Porter does more than 150k buys, and quite a bit more. The FOX promotion behind the PPVs is a whole another beast compared to SHO or especially from what we saw with ESPN.

He's not creating no illusion with me, I completely understand what is happening. It is YOU that is not understanding. You are trying to pinpoint the PPV success mainly to Garcia when he's shown nothing to put himself above Spence in terms of star level. In fact, I said they were pretty much equal stars heading into the fight and Spence emerged as the bigger star after the fight.

And every PBC PPV put out has done 300k+. Espinoza specifically said if a PPV does not do more than 250-300k buys, then it is not worth putting it on PPV. There is obviously a chance Spence/Porter won't do more than 300k buys, so if they can fund it on SHO or FOX, what is the problem? And of course, same applies for Wilder/Breazeale.

Broner hasn't done a million on SHO for a while. He is certainly #2 behind Wilder right now, but if Spence reaches the million mark, he would do more than Broner against Mikey or Vargas or Granados etc.