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  • #21
    Originally posted by killakali View Post
    Lmao u “released 100-150k buys”

    It’s Tuesday. We should have them by end of week I would imagine.

    I’m still waiting on your apples to apples analysis of comparing espn boxing to fs1 ratings. Almost the same amount of homes right there.
    I'm getting that number from my source. If the numbers were good we'd hear them by now.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
      I'm getting that number from my source. If the numbers were good we'd hear them by now.
      Not true. It they were available and horrible Coppinger or Idec would be all over it releasing it.

      How much did the uK money kick in for khan?

      Where’s the apples to apples comparison espn to fs1? I’m still waiting. You are always trying to support pbc and make negative comments about top rank and DAZN why not cut the bias.

      Espn vs fs1 is a legitimate comparison.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
        I'm getting that number from my source. If the numbers were good we'd hear them by now.
        Copp just reported Pacquiao vs Thurman on 7/20. How many buys do u see that doing? Seems like similar to the Broner fight. 300-400k

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        • #24
          Top Rank are spending a hell of a lot of money to throw Crawford against the wall and see if he sticks.... something like 12 million dollars across his last three fights.

          Remember when Devon Alexander was that dude and was a huge draw in St. Louis?? He and Bradley only got a little over a million bucks each when they fought.

          Seems crazy to dish out this kinda money on Crawford when there's no path to a massive star-making PPV fight.

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          • #25
            I think Arum went all in on Crawford back when he thought he could use Manny to elevate him. That plan went to hell. But, Bud can still earn as much or more than the top PBC welters against the likes of Brook, Jessie Vargas, Mikey. So long as he has that belt someone from PBC will want it eventually. Be it Porter, Spence, Danny. Only reason Soence’s PPV did ok was on the strength of Mikey’s drawing power. Thurman, Danny and Porter have not headlined a PPV yet. That is pathetic. All the names they fought and none of them have earned more than $2M for a fight. Look at Danny and Thurman’s resume, they should be PPV attractions by now.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by killakali View Post
              Copp just reported Pacquiao vs Thurman on 7/20. How many buys do u see that doing? Seems like similar to the Broner fight. 300-400k
              Pac vs Thurman is apparently going to be on FOX PPV.

              With the FOX machine behind it I can see it doing 500k

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              • #27
                Arum is right in screaming at pbc/haymon. They have the biggest stable and are putting out more bs fights than quality. If you cant see that, then you're part of the problem. If a promoter TRULY believes in his fighters, hed try to at least make the fight happen. If the negotiations dont work out, at least they can say they tried. But not even attempting is a bi.tchmove and putting up bs ppvs nobody wants to see is bi.tchmade.

                This goes for ALL 4 big promotional companies (GB, tr, matchroom and pbc) but more specifically pbc/haymon because they have damn near everyone

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds View Post
                  Pac vs Thurman is apparently going to be on FOX PPV.

                  With the FOX machine behind it I can see it doing 500k
                  I think it tops out at 400k. Broner was more of a personality than thurman ever will be. If may need to do 500k or more not to lose money. Manny got 20 mil for Broner so what does he want for Thurman. Broner got 4 mil for that fight and I bet Keef wants 5 mil at least....

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                  • #29
                    Ofcourse it flopped its an American PPV, they are all flopping. Wilder Fury flopped, it didnt do much more than you are calling for this fight but that was deemed a huge success. This narrative the PBC huggers run with certainly is a turny twisty one.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat View Post
                      Well said.
                      To be frank with you, MCC, Spence-Crawford has lost a lot of luster for me. Still a good fight but, after seeing both their fights, it's just one among the many 'just OK' fights to make.
                      Instead, Danny Garcia against either of these, interests me more now. Maybe I'm alone here.
                      Not sure it's worth the headache of dealing with Arum.
                      Danny put on a show, his best effort ever.That's a good fight with Crawford or Spence (unless Danny goes shy i.e. like with Thurman & Porter). Arums noise, attitude, and privilege knocks most everything off the table.

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