Arum is panicking because Crawford/Khan PPV flopped

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  • kingstip9
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    #11
    Originally posted by Mister Wolf
    I've never understood men celebrating and arguing over other peoples money. Money they wont see a dime of.
    One of worst topics of the forum. X makes more than Y.

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    • killakali
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      #12
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      He knows what the buys were tracking at that night. You get real time numbers the day of and you can gauge where it'll fall.
      Not that early at all. He made those comments right after the fight.

      Why does ESPN get 2-3x higher ratings when they are in the same number of households? That’s the apples to apples to comparison we need answered.

      What do you Haymon lost on Pac-Broner? 5-6 mil?

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      • Fanofreason
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        #13
        Originally posted by killakali
        lol how could he be panicking at the press conference when they had idea what it had sold yet lol.

        Crawford was guaranteed 5.5 million. WBF IBF WBC already said a 100 times Spence was guaranteed 8 mil for mikey so you saying Crawford and khan was each l guaranteed more than mikey and garcia is a flat out lie.

        I’m sure they lost money and probably expected it. When Crawford goes back to espn he will be back at 3.65 mil a fight which is in the budget so no buyout is needed. Tyson Fury is making more than that and not on ppv. U are underestimating the espn budget.

        If you want to talk to about losing money on ppvs. Haymon didn’t make anything on Spence Mikey when he had 12 mil guaranteed in the main event alone and 13.5 in ppv revenues off 360k buys.

        To make it worse Haymon lost a TON on Pacquiao Broner. That’s what happens when u guarantee Manny 20 mil and Broner 4 mil for an event that only does 400k buys. That fight lost more than Crawford-Khan. So are u saying Haymon is panicking and getting ready to buyout Manny hmmmmmm?
        PBC has highest sponsorship money. Your missing the site fee and sponsors boss.

        PPV is only 1/3 of the money.

        You guys realize the venues bid and pay a fixed fee to the promoter for the site don’t you?

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          #14
          Originally posted by Biolink
          If it did more than 100k I'd be surprised. Crawford doesn't give A f*** about promoting his fights.

          In fairness to him it should be about the business, but being as quiet as he is definitely doesn't move units.
          Crawford is just not a PPV fighter and he isnt superstar material. He is like a tree himself and Victor Ortiz looks like Mr Personality compared to him.

          Crawford may be a good fighter but he is so uninteresting to me. If he isnt gonna fight Spence, I really dont care to watch him.

          Arum fked up by investing in Crawford. Crawford and Zurdo were bad investments.

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          • Motorcity Cobra
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            #15
            Originally posted by killakali
            Not that early at all. He made those comments right after the fight.

            Why does ESPN get 2-3x higher ratings when they are in the same number of households? That’s the apples to apples to comparison we need answered.

            What do you Haymon lost on Pac-Broner? 5-6 mil?
            You quoted a post of mine where i said 90% of buys are made that night. He knows what the buys were tracking at that night.

            Why haven't the preliminary numbers been released yet?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
              I could see it happening if Arum knew how to act.
              Well said.

              To be frank with you, MCC, Spence-Crawford has lost a lot of luster for me. Still a good fight but, after seeing both their fights, it's just one among the many 'just OK' fights to make.

              Instead, Danny Garcia against either of these, interests me more now. Maybe I'm alone here.

              Not sure it's worth the headache of dealing with Arum.
              Last edited by BoxingIsGreat; 04-23-2019, 09:47 PM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by kingstip9
                One of worst topics of the forum. X makes more than Y.
                Originally posted by Mister Wolf
                I've never understood men celebrating and arguing over other peoples money. Money they wont see a dime of.
                Originally posted by kingstip9
                Cool man, hope that makes you feel better
                Imma do all 3 of you guys a big favor and add you to my ignore list so you won't be burdened with commenting in my topics that you have absolutely no interest in and hate. Yet you're still here. But don't worry. I'll take that temptation away since you don't have the will power.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #18
                  200k wouldn’t be terrible. It had a very good live gate and I’m sure did well enough in England. 200k for Crawford-Khan isn’t bad.

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                  • killakali
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Fanofreason
                    PBC has highest sponsorship money. Your missing the site fee and sponsors boss.

                    PPV is only 1/3 of the money.

                    You guys realize the venues bid and pay a fixed fee to the promoter for the site don’t you?
                    lmaooooo. Ppv is 80% of the revenue or more.

                    You do realize that sometimes a venue pays a site fee and that sometimes a promoter rents a building and makes money back on tickets right?

                    You do realize that the Home Depot Center didn’t pay a site fee for Danny Garcia vs Granados or almost ever right ? Lol. For example you can rent the Forum in LA for 100-150k while PBC paid more like 250k for Staples. Staples is in high demand but if you have a hot foght you can make money on it. No different than renting it for a concert.

                    Site fees are in casinos liken Pacquiao Broner or Fury Schwartz. And that site fee varies.

                    As for sponsorships PBC has Corona for their main sponsor like Top Rank has Geico. GBP might actually have the most with Tecate Hennessy Visit Mexico and others.

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                    • killakali
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                      You quoted a post of mine where i said 90% of buys are made that night. He knows what the buys were tracking at that night.

                      Why haven't the preliminary numbers been released yet?
                      Lmao u “released 100-150k buys”

                      It’s Tuesday. We should have them by end of week I would imagine.

                      I’m still waiting on your apples to apples analysis of comparing espn boxing to fs1 ratings. Almost the same amount of homes right there.

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