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  • LacedUp
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    #281
    Originally posted by AdonisCreed
    I agree that seems like the most logical solution to me.
    So if Ortiz was offered 4million for example, this is the same guarantee Wilder had vs Fury, you don't think that's good enough?

    What planet are you living on? this is double what Ortiz has made his entire career put together.

    Most likely Ortiz is juicing right now and that's why he's rejecting it.

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    • AdonisCreed
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      #282
      On the other hand let's say it was a low ball offer. You're getting a chance to collect all but one of the belts and fight in MSG. A win will put you at the top of the Food Chain!! I understand wanting your money but this might be your only opportunity like this. And Ortiz ain't getting any younger. I believe he's a helluva fighter and has a chance at winning but in his case he has to look at the bigger picture. Wilder is WBC champ and Fury is Lineal Champ for what it's worth but Ortiz doesn't have a strap. Again I want to know how low are we talking when they say a Low Ball offer.

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        #283
        Originally posted by Phenom
        AJ is no Mayweather and he been finding that out unfortunately
        That's not what he meant you donkey.

        How does it feel to be this pathetic where you have to twist everything to make yourself feel good? Spoilt children are usually the little b****. But to see so many "Adults" act like this? F3ck me are you people one big hideous joke.

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          #284
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          So if Ortiz was offered 4million for example, this is the same guarantee Wilder had vs Fury, you don't think that's good enough?

          What planet are you living on? this is double what Ortiz has made his entire career put together.

          Most likely Ortiz is juicing right now and that's why he's rejecting it.
          To answer the first question yes I think that would be good enough. But also what's wrong with Ortiz getting Miller's purse when they were planning on spending that money anyways. Also how do you know what was offered, double of what Ortiz has made in his ENTIRE CAREER?

          Second why are you jumping to conclusions about Ortiz juicing as a reason he's turning down the fight? Let him fail a test first before getting on his case.

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            #285
            Originally posted by KillaMane26
            I need to see the numbers just cuz he got 500k vs Wilder dont mean he should accept anything for AJ who makes 20mill. If Wilder was making close to AJ i doubt he woulda accepted that 500k so no point in bringing that up.

            Show the numbers ......
            Well Wilder is getting millions from Showtime to keep the coward on there. But how much are they paying Brezeale? I can assure you it isn't anywhere near close to what Wilder is getting.

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              #286
              Originally posted by AdonisCreed
              To answer the first question yes I think that would be good enough. But also what's wrong with Ortiz getting Miller's purse when they were planning on spending that money anyways. Also how do you know what was offered, double of what Ortiz has made in his ENTIRE CAREER?

              Second why are you jumping to conclusions about Ortiz juicing as a reason he's turning down the fight? Let him fail a test first before getting on his case.
              Because his purses are public? A good payday for him is 250k, he's made that 2-3 times and one 500k payday to his name. that's it.

              Ortiz has already failed two tests, why would I need to wait for a third one to be right to assume he's probably juicing?

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                #287
                Originally posted by Phenom
                AJ is no Mayweather and he been finding that out unfortunately
                Of course he's not. Fighters actually have the chance of getting hurt vs Joshua, and be in a real fight not a near-exhibition.

                Plus, AJ is actually offering his opponents more money than Mayweather

                Now that's telling.

                Mayweather is the dream opponent for anyone in history.
                1. Big name
                2. Pillow puncher
                3. Massive publicity
                4. Guaranteed 12 rounder

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                  #288
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                  Joshua has a CV to British fans. The whole point of fighting in the US is to build his profile there. So to presume this event goes as planned with just any cab driver would presumptuously inaccurate. Further, a KO win over Ortiz enhances his CV.
                  Not everyone is smitten with AJ and his previous opponents.

                  Point 3 does matter and it matters a lot. Just like Miller being from NY mattered. Point 1 remains valid as this event monetarily will flop if subscribers aren't attracted and mass refunds are requested. Recall DAZN is overpaying to hopefully get more subscribers.
                  So people are asking for refunds on the tickets that have already sold? Care to show me some proof?

                  AJ has the same CV to everyone who watches boxing. Doesn't matter where you're from. It's the same resume and credentials.

                  How many fans does Ortiz bring to the show? Then show me the evidence of it all?

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                    #289
                    Originally posted by OgTripleOg
                    AJ being fed more weak opponents for his debut lol sad
                    He tried to get all the top guys with millions on the table. Apparently, making many times your biggest payday wasn't enough for these cowards. Now that is sad.

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                      #290
                      Originally posted by Jkp
                      No serious boxing fans wants to see a loud mouth unproven, obese miller do anything.
                      But they want to see an old unproven nobody with the stamina of an old woman who is on high blood pressure tablets?

                      Oh right.

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