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  • Jkp
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    #211
    Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
    Every boxing fan who knows Ortiz also knows Miller. There aren't any casuals out there wondering what Luiz Ortiz is up to.

    Miller was selling the fight, he has a big mouth and that makes people want to see him get his azz kicked...
    No serious boxing fans wants to see a loud mouth unproven, obese miller do anything.

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    • CubanGuyNYC
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      #212
      I would love to know the numbers. Not much point in debating this subject without some figures. In the end, I’m just disappointed this fight isn’t going to happen; nor is it likely to, considering Ortiz’s age.

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        #213
        Originally posted by Keiran444
        Hearns become a laughing stock over the last year or so to get some credibility back he needs to give Ortiz what he wants.
        List all the things Hearn has become a laughing stock over? Just Wilder's excuses after the Fury defeat and robbery is enough to make Wilder a laughing stock. That's not even including the ducks he keeps making.

        Yeah, just give in to all the crazy demands of these cowards. Forget 10 Mill, Hearn should pay Ortiz at least 90 to 100 Mill. That makes sense because it's not as big as the 500K he got to fight Wilder. It's much less, but Ortiz just wants to fight the best and prove his words are not false. Haha.

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        • Bob Haymon
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          #214
          Originally posted by Jkp
          Not according to the rankings, and boxing experts.

          I love it how the AJ fanboys constantly try and discredit him, to protect there precious AJ that they have a hard on for.
          You don't need rankings and boxing experts to know how big of a draw Ortiz is. He's not a big enough draw to be acting like a diva. I'm not protecting AJ. I'm actually arguing in favor of him fighting a dangerous opponent like Ortiz. Ortiz is the one making excuses not to fight AJ. He would rather continue fighting journeymen and deliver lackluster performances than to headline one of the biggest, most hyped about shows of the year.

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          • Sid-Knee
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            #215
            Originally posted by Robertthebruce
            If Hearn has offered Ortiz the same money as Miller or more then it's a clear duck by Ortiz HOWEVER if it's less than Miller's purse then it's a sly duck by AJ via a lowball. No way should Ortiz get less than fat bum Miller. What Hearn says on IFL and what he actually does are 2 different things as he is a snake. It's a shame as really wanted to see this one.
            Give me examples of Hearn being a snake?

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            • Mister Wolf
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              #216
              At least now I know not to take Ortiz serious anymore.

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                #217
                Originally posted by Gambino
                You don't need rankings and boxing experts to know how big of a draw Ortiz is. He's not a big enough draw to be acting like a diva. I'm not protecting AJ. I'm actually arguing in favor of him fighting a dangerous opponent like Ortiz. Ortiz is the one making excuses not to fight AJ. He would rather continue fighting journeymen and deliver lackluster performances than to headline one of the biggest, most hyped about shows of the year.
                Theres quite a long list of fighters making the same "excuse", about Eddies dodgy offers.

                Even Whyte with same promoters has openly said how bad Eddies "deals" are.

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                • Sid-Knee
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Robertthebruce
                  Agree with this fully as Ortiz is way better than Miller. It's awful how these AJ nuthuggers are expecting Ortiz to accept less due to his previous earnings when guys like Martin and Miller were earning less yet were offered many millions as AJ knew they were easy fights but knows this is tough so Iowballing deliberately. Hearn also did mention that AJ's trainer may not want this fight so might be a tactical move to avoid Ortiz without losing face.
                  Hearn saying McCracken may not want this fight, is not McCracken DOESN'T want this fight. Big difference. He's just looking at the view of McCracken having to train AJ for a southpaw at such short notice.

                  AJ is a bigger star now with more world titles and a much better resume than when he fought Martin for his first world title. They massively overpaid just to get a world title. They don't have to keep paying everyone that much or more. That's like saying Floyd should have to pay everyone the same or more than Manny got. It's ******.

                  Miller sells more than someone who doesn't even speak English. Nor is he 50 years old like Ortiz is. Nor does he look horrible when fighting complete garbage all the time the way Ortiz does. Not only that, but Hearn was desperate for a fight for AJ due to everyone else ducking so Miller drew a hard bargain so he too was massively overpaid. If you look at the context, you'll see these jokes are being paid way beyond their worth.

                  It's pathetic seeing all these cowards refusing massive paydays for a shot at the Heavyweight champion. It's supposed to be them chasing the opportunity, not AJ and Hearn chasing them. What a sick joke. But people like you support it because you're spiteful and wish to see as much dirt thrown at AJ as is possible. The insecurity and entitlement is nothing short of crazy.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by Jkp
                    Theres quite a long list of fighters making the same "excuse", about Eddies dodgy offers.

                    Even Whyte with same promoters has openly said how bad Eddies "deals" are.
                    Yet none of these fighters have or will make close to what was offered to them.

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                    • MPX309
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                      #220
                      Why is lowball offer in quotation marks? Like is that to say it wasn't really a lowball offer?

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