whats the difference between loma and lopez(TR fanboi hypocrisy)

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  • chrisJS
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    #21
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    what were lomas credentials in the pro game when he fought for a title in his 2nd fight?

    are you going to tell me amateur record and Olympic medals were his credentials? the same amateur career that was used as an excuse by his fans for the loss to salido? because a lot of guys ran around forums saying he didn't have the pro experience(which is the same to me as using his amateur career as a foundation for pro credentials)....
    He wasn’t fighting the pound for pound #1 in his 2nd fight. Lopez would be fighting the p4p #1.

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    • Curt Henning
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      #22
      Originally posted by chrisJS
      He wasn’t fighting the pound for pound #1 in his 2nd fight. Lopez would be fighting the p4p #1.
      ok...and if there were a #1 p4p guy in lomas weight class when he started his career how many fights you think it would have taken him before he asked for that fight?

      bob took an accelerated approach with loma due to age...hes taking a more traditional approach with lopez due to his age.....

      but if lopez wants it and says hes ready than theres no real reason not to make it...top 3 most intriguing fight u can make for loma right now

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      • Curt Henning
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        #23
        if lopez had an extended amateur career and turned pro at 26 hed likely have an accelerated approach that loma has

        and if loma had turned pro prior to age 20 he likely would have had the same approach lopez is getting now from arum as far as taking his career

        people often run around here saying other fighters are timid to fight loma....yet when one wants it people are asking for his "credentials"

        if loma wants that ibf belt or whatever commey has that belt will still be there after he fights lopez and he can go get it...not that he needs paper belts to validate himself anymore......ggg never unified and still got the fight he craved the most

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        • 4truth
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          #24
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          I don't disagree ...he might get worked....that's not the point though really....if he can talk his way into it why not?

          sure it might be career suicide to some degree...but let the fighters take the fights they want and feel ready for right? isn't that what people said about loma when he burst on the scene?
          While I'm not in any way comparing Loma to Duran, the answer to your "why not?" is Davey Moore.
          Give Lopez a chance to realize his potential at least before having him risk it all.

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          • Curt Henning
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            #25
            Originally posted by 4truth
            While I'm not in any way comparing Loma to Duran, the answer to your "why not?" is Davey Moore.
            Give Lopez a chance to realize his potential at least before having him risk it all.
            oh I totally hear that...im sure many want to warn lopez about it...but hes not being forced into this...he outwardly wants this fight and is asking for it

            it might be brash...it might be ******...but its his life and his career....most guys run around here saying "I wish so and so would demand that fight and tell his promoter to make instead of ...blah blah"....heres a guy wanting to take a chance and take his career in his hands and people are suddenly asking for "credentials".....

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            • Bullrider
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              #26
              No such thing as TR fanboys. Arum doesn't have any loyal rabid fans like Haymon have.

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              • Curt Henning
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                #27
                Originally posted by kraftzman
                No such thing as TR fanboys. Arum doesn't have any loyal rabid fans like Haymon have.
                they exist by proxy....they don't even love TR..they hate al so much that they are a TR fanboi ...or a fanboi of anyone against al......it exists...it is real

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                • DuckAdonis
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Curt Henning
                  that prospect "with a loud mouth" is more intriguing than just about any fight he can make save for tank and mikey.....and its much easier considering bob has both guys in this scenario.....right?

                  chasing belts is a lame excuse at this point...loma doesn't need belts for anything....by the time lopez could likely get one hed probably be out of weight range anyway...loma is anointed top 2 p4p....belts prove nothing at this point.....its the same lame excuse we heard from golovkin while he was really chasing money....kell brook aint bring no belt...but he was seeking exposure so he could make himself bigger and more appealing to canelo.....
                  Maybe for you it is more intriguing...
                  Lopez only has the eye test going for him. I'd much rather see Loma chase his goal to become undisputed. I think that is a way better accomplishment than beating a highly touted prospect...but to each his own. If Lopez vs Loma does happen soon tho, I would like you to give Loma full credit if he beats him, since you are pushing for that fight. I don't want to hear no excuses like "he was not ready yet" and "he was too green". and all that BS. Because I know you guys will do anything to discredit the man.

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                  • killakali
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    facts are haymon makes more good inhouse fights these days than TR does

                    TR has a good one staring them right in the face and they wont even really consider it......if they make it ill take my medicine and own up to it...but I highly doubt that happens

                    lopez is more intriguing than any fight out there for loma save for tank and mikey....and making the lopez/loma is a lot easier for bob isn't it?
                    Kovalev Alvarez was very interesting and when they match them all up they will be interesting. Bob wants to make Loma vs lopez super bowl weekend. Not sure why u are saying he won’t consider it.

                    Loma Berchelt is gonna be a good one too. Valdez vs frampton is also a bif in house fight.

                    Tr and Haymon follow the same blueprints

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DuckAdonis
                      Maybe for you it is more intriguing...
                      Lopez only has the eye test going for him. I'd much rather see Loma chase his goal to become undisputed. I think that is a way better accomplishment than beating a highly touted prospect...but to each his own. If Lopez vs Loma does happen soon tho, I would like you to give Loma full credit if he beats him, since you are pushing for that fight. I don't want to hear no excuses like "he was not ready yet" and "he was too green". and all that BS. Because I know you guys will do anything to discredit the man.
                      id def give loma FULL credit...but id also bet a lot of money it DOES NOT happen

                      let me ask you a question

                      T or F

                      lomas fans claim many are timid to fight him?

                      T or F

                      many loma fans say tank davis doesn't want to fight him.....many also say mikey doesn't want to fight him

                      so now you have a guy that WANTS to fight him and were asking for credentials?

                      yes lopez only really has the eye test...that much I agree...but so what?

                      any guy that loma fights right now will be a huge betting underdog....large....sans tank or mikey.....if lopez fought loma obvi loma would still be the favorite...but youll get a MUCH better number on loma than you will see against commey or any other guy

                      the eye test here is real....most of these other guys are outmatched easily in every department...with lopez theres some believe he has enough youth, athleticism, pop etc to beat loma

                      so that's what we should want....not asking for lopez's credentials when he wants the fight without it being forced on him

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