whats the difference between loma and lopez(TR fanboi hypocrisy)

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  • Bullrider
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    #41
    Originally posted by Curt Henning
    lol...idiot

    lopez himself WANTS the fight....its not being forced on him...by me or bob arum...he WANTS IT HIMSELF...lol

    and it doesn't matter when porter, Thurman, Garcia fought each other...the point is they did...their careers were moved like everyone else who started when they did....they aren't special...but they fought each other and al makes other good fights too...the point is al does put his top guys in against each other...which is always a complaint of his haters "he doesn't make good fights or make his guys fight each other"

    you are a 1st class ruh-tard
    Stop repeating this crap about PBC fighters fighting each other. It's irrelevant now. Of course, they eventually did. Haymon simply ran out of clowns to feed them. What do you expect? Much like Arum eventually doing Postol vs Crawford, which came much earlier than expected.

    Didn't Spence want Thurman, Garcia, Porter too? What difference does it make if Lopez want the fight? Why weren't you criticizing the cancer when fights were not happening for Spence in his own street? Why only TR?

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      #42
      Originally posted by kraftzman
      Stop repeating this crap about PBC fighters fighting each other. It's irrelevant now. Of course, they eventually did. Haymon simply ran out of clowns to feed them. What do you expect? Much like Arum eventually doing Postol vs Crawford, which came much earlier than expected.

      Didn't Spence want Thurman, Garcia, Porter too? What difference does it make if Lopez want the fight? Why weren't you criticizing the cancer when fights were not happening for Spence in his own street? Why only TR?
      go away dude...you aren't sane or fit enough for this convo

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        #43
        Originally posted by Curt Henning
        I agree 100 percent....realistically its not a fight to make for bob arum as a promoter.....I totally get that...and I think bob wants to stall it with promises and talk...so that lopez moves out of weight and he doesn't have to consider it....no argument from there...I totally agree
        Yeah we both know Arum is all about that $$ and the more stars he can build up, the better buisness is for TR.

        Ramirez looks a little shaky at 140, that's the food hes gonna feed to Lopez when he moves up next year. Until then I expect some step up fights but nothing big for Lopez. Keep the highlight reel KO's coming until more people know his name then turn him into a star for TR in late 2019. Maybe a huge Crawford fight in 2020 while Bud and Spence are still talking about fighting on Twitter lol.

        Damn I forgot it's already 2019 lol. I meant 2020 and 2021

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          #44
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          you cant use his amateur pedigree as his "credentials" then turn around and use it as his crutch to describe why he lost to salido

          and that's what has happened here....people want to use his amateur career in this argument....they want to use that as his credentials....when in the past they used his lack of pro experience as a reason he took an L to a guy that hes classes above

          I don't think his amateur credentials can be used on both sides ....at least that doesn't fly with me
          Amateur pedigree says a lot about a boxer. Being a great amateur doesnt mean you will be a great pro but the potential someone with someone who has that pedigree is better than someone who doesnt have that.

          That's usually the case. If someone had an amateur record of 1-396 would you assume them to be a good boxer? A good pro?

          If someone has a gold medal and some guy off the street challenged him who would you take?

          Amateur styles and pro styles are the same?

          My original response was longer but damn, I realized it doesnt matter what I say because you have your own agenda.

          I'm a Loma fan you. Gtfoh. You're just another hater dude.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            let it be known most TR fanbois are really just al haymon haters....but lets take a look

            the haymon haters often try to tell us that al doesnt make good fights and wont have his guys fight each other

            but weve seen al just recently put two top 10 p4p guys in with each other at WW....weve seen spence go to the UK to pillage kell brooks title....weve seen thurman, porter and danny all in with each other...and down the road he may be able to make spence/porter and spence/thurman.....

            now we have loma...great fighter....awesome....when he came out the gate fighting named guys the fans loved it...ate it up..fought for a title in his 2nd fight, despite not really earning it, they loved...what a legend and hero.....and ya know what? they werent really wrong...it was cool....but people lauded him a hero for it

            now you have lopez....a young prospect that TR has been featuring....hes exciting....and he wants to get it on now with a top 3 p4p guy...he says hes ready right now....so why should we stop a guy that claims hes ready? when loma was lauded for coming out the gate?

            but already you can see the fanbois saying "who has lopez beaten to prove anything? to think hes on the same level as loma"?

            these guys are already excusing a fight they know we wont see....

            imo theres really no difference between loma coming out of the gate wanting titles and good fights...and a young lopez feeling ready to test himself right now

            but the fanbois will excuse it by saying "lopez hasnt proven anything and beaten anyone".....its funny to watch people bag al haymon day and night around here and then excuse bob for a logical matchup he can make in house with two guys in the same weight class currently

            just goes to show you the lengths people will go to to hate on someone because they just cant stand it for no good reason

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            your boy will get his shot. let him have 2 more wins, before Arum loses his Handuranian cash cow. he sure one, "interesting" character, when he speaks up.
            Last edited by Ogecca MaMa; 04-13-2019, 01:47 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Socialtwinkie
              Amateur pedigree says a lot about a boxer. Being a great amateur doesnt mean you will be a great pro but the potential someone with someone who has that pedigree is better than someone who doesnt have that.

              That's usually the case. If someone had an amateur record of 1-396 would you assume them to be a good boxer? A good pro?

              If someone has a gold medal and some guy off the street challenged him who would you take?

              Amateur styles and pro styles are the same?

              My original response was longer but damn, I realized it doesnt matter what I say because you have your own agenda.

              I'm a Loma fan you. Gtfoh. You're just another hater dude.
              amateur pedigree is not "credentials" in the pro fight game...plain and simple

              so what were lomas credentials to get a title shot in his 2nd fight? you are saying his amateur credentials qualify him

              yet his same fans were the ones claiming his lack of pro experience cost him that fight....which one is it?

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              • Ogecca MaMa
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                #47
                Originally posted by Curt Henning
                amateur pedigree is not "credentials" in the pro fight game...plain and simple

                so what were lomas credentials to get a title shot in his 2nd fight? you are saying his amateur credentials qualify him

                yet his same fans were the ones claiming his lack of pro experience cost him that fight....which one is it?
                no **** Sherlock? would you like to know how much pro cans make per fight, when they debute without 0 experience?

                how come Loma got paid 4 million just by signing with Arum, having 0 professional fights?

                whatever you are on, just simply dont be posting your thoughts. you are "plain and simple" as you said..,embarrassing.

                I guess Loma's credentials were, his beautiful smile, his tattoe and dance classes that he took when he was a kid. probably some wrestling years, made Arum to believe he will be somewhat good, and tried to give Loma his demands, going straight for the titles. I mean, I just guess, we won't know. LOL
                Last edited by Ogecca MaMa; 04-13-2019, 01:55 PM.

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                • Curt Henning
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Ogecca MaMa
                  no **** Sherlock? would you like to know how much pro cans make per fight, when they debute without 0 experience?

                  how come Loma got paid 4 million just by signing with Arum, having 0 professional fights?

                  whatever you are on, just simply dont be posting your thoughts. you are "plain and simple" as you said..,embarrassing.

                  I guess Loma's credentials were, his beautiful smile, his tattoe and dance classes that he took when he was a kid. probably some wrestling years, made Arum to believe he will be somewhat good, and tried to give Loma his demands, going straight for the titles. I mean, I just guess, we won't know. LOL
                  uhhh....I guess you miss the point eh?

                  people are claiming his amateur pedigree made him deserving of a title shot....but then turn around and use his lack of pro experience as the reason he lost to salido

                  why do people want/need to see lopezs credentials to fight loma?

                  just go away....you are just babbling and not making sense to me as im sure im doing to the same to you...lets just blame it on cultural differences shall we?

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                  • Ogecca MaMa
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    uhhh....I guess you miss the point eh?

                    people are claiming his amateur pedigree made him deserving of a title shot....but then turn around and use his lack of pro experience as the reason he lost to salido

                    why do people want/need to see lopezs credentials to fight loma?

                    just go away....you are just babbling and not making sense to me as im sure im doing to the same to you...lets just blame it on cultural differences shall we?
                    i guess i did miss a point, my bad sir.

                    in this case yes, he didn't have lots of experience in pros, his second fight dumb ass. and he won the fight. for everything Salido threw under the belt, should of been disqualified, and should I mention how much he weighed for that 126 fight?

                    another expert that tries to talk boxing

                    not even loma thinks he lost that fight. so answer is NO, i dont think Loma lost that fight because he was inexperienced. there are other reasons for that, that you blind mf cannot simply see.

                    if this fight would of been in Russia/Ukraine/Germany, Salido would of been disqualified. double-standards..but doe..in Russia judges are crooked.
                    Last edited by Ogecca MaMa; 04-13-2019, 02:19 PM.

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Ogecca MaMa
                      i guess i did miss a point, my bad sir.

                      in this case yes, he didn't have lots of experience in pros, his second fight dumb ass. and he won the fight. for everything Salido threw under the belt, should of been disqualified, and should I mention how much he weighed for that 126 fight?

                      another expert that tries to talk boxing

                      not even loma thinks he lost that fight.
                      lol...so loma is bobs golden boy that he set up with a title shot in his 2nd fight? and they want to rob loma the future star? hahaha yeah ok...that makes a lot of sense

                      people run around saying canelo gets gifts all the time...yet they wanted to rob loma in favor of some guy with like 13-14 losses who doesn't sell anything? lol...yeah that makes a ton of sense right?!

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