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  • daggum
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    #81
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    Yep. Having those two huge networks behind him can only help his name recognition in the U.S.

    He just needs to keep winning.
    i thought boxing was about money? he could have gotten the money and skipped the hard part which is building your name up over the course of many years and even that is no guarantee at all. oh well. we just saw his last ppv flop which isnt a good sign and should have encouraged him even more to take the deal

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      #82
      I'm shocked Wilder hasn't demanded 55% after this. He must think he's a Hollywood super star now since he resides in Wilder world where ones head grows the size of a boulder with even the slightest noteriety given to him .

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        #83
        Originally posted by daggum
        i thought boxing was about money? he could have gotten the money and skipped the hard part which is building your name up over the course of many years and even that is no guarantee at all. oh well. we just saw his last ppv flop which isnt a good sign and should have encouraged him even more to take the deal
        I actually agree that he should have taken the DAZN money. But he's ******** on making more than that.

        Why are you saying his PPV flopped?

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          #84
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          I actually agree that he should have taken the DAZN money. But he's ******** on making more than that.

          Why are you saying his PPV flopped
          ?
          he chose to make far less. thats not a gamble. thats a decision. why couldn't he make the 100 million then make more than that in the future by beating joshua, doing a rematch, etc...if you are talking about maximizing profit thats the way to go but he cornered himself into having to make more just to make up for the amount he just turned down.

          fury and wilder were guaranteed 20 million dollar purses and the fight barely made that much even if you give them 100 percent of the revenue which wouldn't happen. it was definitely a money loser hence why wilder is not on ppv anymore.

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            #85
            Originally posted by daggum
            he chose to make far less. thats not a gamble. thats a decision. why couldn't he make the 100 million then make more than that in the future by beating joshua, doing a rematch, etc...if you are talking about maximizing profit thats the way to go but he cornered himself into having to make more just to make up for the amount he just turned down.

            fury and wilder were guaranteed 20 million dollar purses and the fight barely made that much even if you give them 100 percent of the revenue which wouldn't happen. it was definitely a money loser hence why wilder is not on ppv anymore.
            He's ******** that if he keeps winning he can get a bigger slice of the pie against Joshua. Personally I think it's foolish to turn down the guaranteed DAZN money. But if he wants to bet on himself then he has that right.

            How do you know how much money the PPV made? Do you have a source for the numbers you are using?

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              #86
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              He's ******** that if he keeps winning he can get a bigger slice of the pie against Joshua. Personally I think it's foolish to turn down the guaranteed DAZN money. But if he wants to bet on himself then he has that right.

              How do you know how much money the PPV made? Do you have a source for the numbers you are using?
              but its nonsense. a joshua/wilder fight isnt worth anywhere close to 100 million for both guys as he claims. the money joshua and wilder would get is from dazn, not from the profits made on that fight in particular. hearn was willing to massively overpay wilder to secure the joshua fight. maybe dazn offers him more in the future for some reason but they certainly dont have to. especially given wilders weak numbers and the possibliity that joshua does well in the US. even if joshua doesnt do well in the US his fights in the UK generate far more than any wilder fight so not sure why they would lose money and stage the fight in the US. he lives in an alternate reality. so anytime someone turns down a great deal its no longer ducking? its just ******** that you will get more money down the line hmm ok

              well is any source reliable? the fight apparently did around 300k so they say but who knows that could be bollocks. im sure it didnt do more. 300k times 75. going on those numbers it was a big money loser. not that 300k is horrible but if the point of boxing is to make money which it is, it didnt do well. for example the ggg-jacobs fight did less buys but turned a modest profit therefore it was a success. similar to if you have a movie with a 100 million budget and it only does 50 million in revenue or if you have a 10 million budget and do 15 million in revenue. ill take the latter! so will showtime as they are out of the wilder ppv business simply because its not profitable and it probably wont be profitable given his larger and larger purses.
              Last edited by daggum; 04-07-2019, 11:29 PM.

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                #87
                u rarely see greg gumbel have to read from his note card, but i saw that he had to really focus in close on his to make sure to remeber wilders name

                its crazy because we a professional like him rehearsed hundreds of times and still couldnt remeber

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                  #88
                  I’m surprised he didn’t duck the commentary a few weeks after accepting to do it, he usually does that !

                  #ducksquad

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Kezzer
                    I’m surprised he didn’t duck the commentary a few weeks after accepting to do it, he usually does that !

                    #ducksquad
                    he should have turned it down and gambled on getting a better interview down the line.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by daggum
                      but its nonsense. a joshua/wilder fight isnt worth anywhere close to 100 million for both guys as he claims. the money joshua and wilder would get is from dazn, not from the profits made on that fight in particular. hearn was willing to massively overpay wilder to secure the joshua fight. maybe dazn offers him more in the future for some reason but they certainly dont have to. especially given wilders weak numbers and the possibliity that joshua does well in the US. even if joshua doesnt do well in the US his fights in the UK generate far more than any wilder fight so not sure why they would lose money and stage the fight in the US. he lives in an alternate reality. so anytime someone turns down a great deal its no longer ducking? its just ******** that you will get more money down the line hmm ok

                      well is any source reliable? the fight apparently did around 300k so they say but who knows that could be bollocks. im sure it didnt do more. 300k times 75. going on those numbers it was a big money loser. not that 300k is horrible but if the point of boxing is to make money which it is, it didnt do well. for example the ggg-jacobs fight did less buys but turned a modest profit therefore it was a success. similar to if you have a movie with a 100 million budget and it only does 50 million in revenue or if you have a 10 million budget and do 15 million in revenue. ill take the latter! so will showtime as they are out of the wilder ppv business simply because its not profitable and it probably wont be profitable given his larger and larger purses.
                      You know showtime put up $35M in minmum guarantee for the rematch right? That's more than HBO put up for Canelo v GGG

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