Comments Thread For: Wilder: Everything Fury Gained, He'll Lose it By Facing Schwarz!

[kafkod]

Yes. That's what he said. Which means what? That Warren wanted to promote Joshua on BT or that Finkel wanted to find out more about the UK rights to the fight? Because Warren and BT had nothing to do with Joshua or Wilder, right? So obviously Warren was being consulted by Finkel to formulate an offer to Hearn. Warren says so himself in the interview when he says the offer for Hearn would have to be on Sky. This is then confirmed by Espinoza and DiBella.

Is this making sense yet?

Warren: "Well that's what they were doing. They offered the guarantee of the 50 and the 30 on the strength of buying the rights to put the fight on. I'm sure if I'd been in Hearn's position I'd want the fight and I'd say well no, it's got to go on Sky. But the fact was, that was the conversations I was having with Shelly. We wanted to put the fight on BT and we had a lot of conversations about it"

I know what that means and so do you.

That, right there, is the reason why Finkel refused to tell Hearn and AJ any of the details of the offer unless they accepted it first, which he and Warren both knew was never going to happen.

[davefromvancouv]

Warren: "Well that's what they were doing. They offered the guarantee of the 50 and the 30 on the strength of buying the rights to put the fight on. I'm sure if I'd been in Hearn's position I'd want the fight and I'd say well no, it's got to go on Sky. But the fact was, that was the conversations I was having with Shelly. We wanted to put the fight on BT and we had a lot of conversations about it"

I know what that means and so do you.

That, right there, is the reason why Finkel refused to tell Hearn and AJ any of the details of the offer unless they accepted it first, which he and Warren both knew was never going to happen.

Think about it. Finkel is trying to come up with an offer to present to Hearn. He needs information about the UK rights to the fight. So he consults Warren, who has nothing to do with Wilder or Joshua, but understands how boxing is promoted and distributed in the UK. With this information, he, DiBella and Espinoza are able to come up with a Sky offer to present to Hearn. It's as simple as that.

[kafkod]

Think about it. Finkel is trying to come up with an offer to present to Hearn. He needs information about the UK rights to the fight. So he consults Warren, who has nothing to do with Wilder or Joshua, but understands how boxing is promoted and distributed in the UK. With this information, he, DiBella and Espinoza are able to come up with a Sky offer to present to Hearn. It's as simple as that.

That would be quite credible .. if you hadn't posted a video of Frank Warren saying something completely different.

[DaNeutral.]

Think about it. Finkel is trying to come up with an offer to present to Hearn. He needs information about the UK rights to the fight. So he consults Warren, who has nothing to do with Wilder or Joshua, but understands how boxing is promoted and distributed in the UK. With this information, he, DiBella and Espinoza are able to come up with a Sky offer to present to Hearn. It's as simple as that.

You gotta be kidding. It has been confirmed by Wilders own people and Warren. Classic effort though, utter bollocks.

[Sid-Knee]

Actually, he totally destroys the BT controversy and is incredulous that anybody would be ****** enough to believe it. Which is probably why you're quick to discredit what he says.

How can I discredit what he says when it came out of his mouth about BT being involved just like it did with Frank?

All Lou did was contradict himself, as I said, like they always do in that team.

But continue like a mad person with all your bollocks even though the truth is right in front of you. To deny truth is to deny reality. So as I said, mind how you go.

Just stay away from sharp objects and make sure you've got a carer whenever you go out just to insure public safety.

[davefromvancouv]

That would be quite credible .. if you hadn't posted a video of Frank Warren saying something completely different.

You gotta be kidding. It has been confirmed by Wilders own people and Warren. Classic effort though, utter bollocks.

How can I discredit what he says when it came out of his mouth about BT being involved just like it did with Frank?

All Lou did was contradict himself, as I said, like they always do in that team.

But continue like a mad person with all your bollocks even though the truth is right in front of you. To deny truth is to deny reality. So as I said, mind how you go.

Just stay away from sharp objects and make sure you've got a carer whenever you go out just to insure public safety.

Ludicrous. Warren isn't saying it was a BT offer. He's saying they had conversations about the fight being on BT. Since he had nothing to do with Wilder or Joshua, a logical reason would be help flush out the UK rights to the fight, since Finkel was preparing the SURPRISE offer to Sky Sports.

Then again, why are you so convinced it was a BT offer? Warren is the only person who even remotely suggested that it was a BT offer. Then corrected himself and said obviously it would have to be a Sky offer for Hearn. Hearn never said it was a BT offer. Joshua never did. Espinoza explained the twisted logic for even thinking that it was. Lou DiBella said those who believed it were morons.

But YOU believe it and you have been parroting this foolish narrative since the day you heard BT come out of Warren's mouth. Of course it makes no sense (for most people), because the $50 million against 50% Sky offer was made by Showtime and was rejected by Hearn: not because the funds weren't there, not because he couldn't get a meeting with Finkel, but because he wanted to promote the fight in the UK. Warren helped Finkel flush out the UK rights to the fight. Nothing more, because Warren was not the promoter of Wilder or Joshua.

[Sid-Knee]

Ludicrous. Warren isn't saying it was a BT offer. He's saying they had conversations about the fight being on BT. Since he had nothing to do with Wilder or Joshua, a logical reason would be help flush out the UK rights to the fight, since Finkel was preparing the SURPRISE offer to Sky Sports.

Then again, why are you so convinced it was a BT offer? Warren is the only person who even remotely suggested that it was a BT offer. Then corrected himself and said obviously it would have to be a Sky offer for Hearn. Hearn never said it was a BT offer. Joshua never did. Espinoza explained the twisted logic for even thinking that it was. Lou DiBella said those who believed it were morons.

But YOU believe it and you have been parroting this foolish narrative since the day you heard BT come out of Warren's mouth. Of course it makes no sense (for most people), because the $50 million against 50% Sky offer was made by Showtime and was rejected by Hearn: not because the funds weren't there, not because he couldn't get a meeting with Finkel, but because he wanted to promote the fight in the UK. Warren helped Finkel flush out the UK rights to the fight. Nothing more, because Warren was not the promoter of Wilder or Joshua.

Wilder's team wanted the fight to go to whoever bid the highest between BT Sports and Sky Sports. Which was a non starter. Had BT bid more, which could have been a strong possibility, AJ would have had to pay over 30 Mill due to him having an exclusive contract with Sky Sports. Finkle and co knew this all along, but they just wanted to use propaganda and lies to build up Wilder's name. It was all a con. The fact some people out there still buy all this nonsense is absolutely baffling to me. But hey, got to push the agenda, right?

[kafkod]

Ludicrous. Warren isn't saying it was a BT offer. He's saying they had conversations about the fight being on BT. Since he had nothing to do with Wilder or Joshua, a logical reason would be help flush out the UK rights to the fight, since Finkel was preparing the SURPRISE offer to Sky Sports.

Then again, why are you so convinced it was a BT offer? Warren is the only person who even remotely suggested that it was a BT offer. Then corrected himself and said obviously it would have to be a Sky offer for Hearn. Hearn never said it was a BT offer. Joshua never did. Espinoza explained the twisted logic for even thinking that it was. Lou DiBella said those who believed it were morons.

But YOU believe it and you have been parroting this foolish narrative since the day you heard BT come out of Warren's mouth. Of course it makes no sense (for most people), because the $50 million against 50% Sky offer was made by Showtime and was rejected by Hearn: not because the funds weren't there, not because he couldn't get a meeting with Finkel, but because he wanted to promote the fight in the UK. Warren helped Finkel flush out the UK rights to the fight. Nothing more, because Warren was not the promoter of Wilder or Joshua.

Why do you think Finkel cancelled a scheduled meeting with Hearn and told Dumbtay to make AJ an offer over social media instead?

Why do you think he refused to tell Eddie any of the details of that offer, including who was funding it?

Why bother posting an interview with Frank Warren if you are going to ignore what he says and invent your own alternative narrative?

[davefromvancouv]

Wilder's team wanted the fight to go to whoever bid the highest between BT Sports and Sky Sports. Which was a non starter. Had BT bid more, which could have been a strong possibility, AJ would have had to pay over 30 Mill due to him having an exclusive contract with Sky Sports. Finkle and co knew this all along, but they just wanted to use propaganda and lies to build up Wilder's name. It was all a con. The fact some people out there still buy all this nonsense is absolutely baffling to me. But hey, got to push the agenda, right?

I've never seen that information...

Lou DiBella said (at the tail end of the interview I sent you) that the choice of network was not an issue. If Joshua was on BT, it would be on BT. If Joshua had an exclusive contract with Sky, the fight would be on Sky. As such, Espinoza verified that a Sky offer was made.

If Joshua gets past Miller, I suspect that a similar offer will be made again for a November clash.

[Sid-Knee]

I've never seen that information...

Lou DiBella said (at the tail end of the interview I sent you) that the choice of network was not an issue. If Joshua was on BT, it would be on BT. If Joshua had an exclusive contract with Sky, the fight would be on Sky. As such, Espinoza verified that a Sky offer was made.

If Joshua gets past Miller, I suspect that a similar offer will be made again for a November clash.

Neither did Eddie Hearn. And it's clear to see why. That's exactly what their plans were.

Lou was saying the opposite before he said this. The same way Finkle was saying that they accepted the 15 Mill offer only to contradict himself later on by claiming he didn't accept the offer. It's all out there so you're wasting your time for what ever reason.