Comments Thread For: Espinoza: Let's Get Back To Making Biggest Fights For Wilder

[Sid-Knee]

So you can't prove it with a reliable source? Got it.

The reliable source is Deontay himself. Go and find it, it's easy to find. Everyone else has.

[Sid-Knee]

He gets more money being a free agent & when the fights have to get made there are purse bids you deranged tit....lol

Wilder is taking less for the Brezeale fight being on Showtime. Showtime, in order to keep the doofus on their platform are overpaying him more than 10 Mill than what he generates. If that makes business sense to you, then good luck. Haha.

Was there a purse bid between DAZN and Showtime for the Brezeale fight? No, so that doesn't even make any sense. If there was, DAZN would have clearly won. Duh. Try again.

A "Free agent" who's not willing to fight anywhere else other than Showtime. Some free agent.

[doom_specialist]

So having a bigger guarantee means you're the bigger draw now? More ******ity. Wilder was the home fighter who would never accept less than Fury in guaranteed money otherwise he wouldn't fight. We all know how Deontay operates.

No, it just means Fury was willing to fight without all the delusional cowardice that Wilder always shows just to get the fight on. Wilder could learn from Fury.

They both took home 7 Mill each. The bigger guarantee to Wilder didn't net him more money when it was all said and done.

Wilder can't sell tickets to save his life. He isn't a draw. Fury/Chisora sold all 12,500 tickets. The rematch sold all 20,000 tickets. A number Wilder has never sold. Fury even had more supporters in the build up and in the arena than Wilder did. Fury didn't have a world title either the way the chump Wilder has for 4 years. Wilder's attendance numbers are... Duhaupas 8,471. Spilka 12,668. Arreola 11,974. Washington 12,346. Stiverne 2 10,924. Ortiz 14,069. For a Heavyweight with a world title these are shocking numbers. Especially when it's from a country 5 times the number of people. Fury without a title was getting better numbers or near about in fights with Rogan, Johnson, Hammer etc etc… Could you imagine the numbers with a title? Fury would be selling 20,000 at the minimum. Even AJ is selling more tickets than Wilder at 4x the price even though it's his first fight in the US. Haha. So you need to try again my friend. Try much harder.

You established that some time ago while babbling about all the money Joshua makes, so I tried using your logic to mock you, but it went over your head because you were too busy being a try hard troll lol

Wilder also would have had a smaller guarantee if Joshua had a pair and accepted the $50M offer (sure you have excuses for that too), so have fun believing that delusion lol

For all those numbers you posted, you conveniently left out their PPV numbers, but anyone reading this mess knows why. It's been a total waste of time talking to you lol

[champion4ever]

Yeah, let's get back to the good ole days when Al Haymon was making some good business for both Showtime and Golden Boy Promotions.

[pillowfists98]

I can't think of anybody I dislike more in boxing than Espinoza. What a slimy piece of ****.

[Sid-Knee]

You established that some time ago while babbling about all the money Joshua makes, so I tried using your logic to mock you, but it went over your head because you were too busy being a try hard troll lol

Wilder also would have had a smaller guarantee if Joshua had a pair and accepted the $50M offer (sure you have excuses for that too), so have fun believing that delusion lol

For all those numbers you posted, you conveniently left out their PPV numbers, but anyone reading this mess knows why. It's been a total waste of time talking to you lol

I'm the troll but you put LOL at the end of every paragraph? It's clear to me now that you are a troll and nothing more.

The money you get and whether you're a draw or not are 2 completely different things. I've never claimed AJ was a draw based on the amount of money he got. So you only made a mockery of yourself. AJ is a draw based on how many people buy tickets and his PPV's. When you sell a shlt ton of tickets and PPV's, you're a draw. Wilder isn't, but he's still getting paid over 10 Mill on Showtime just to keep the moron on their platform. Getting big money won't change the fact Wilder isn't a draw. Do you understand now?

No excuses on the 50 Mill because that madness has already been debunked too many times now. It's only the last of the Wilder freaks who desperately cling on to it like it has any benefits when it never did, or ever will.

You mean Wilder's PPV numbers with Fury? Yeah, it didn't do too great did it with only 325,000 supposedly buying it. Funny though because Showtime never put those numbers out. It was someone else. Why would Showtime not confirm those numbers? I mean, that number is the truth isn't it? Unless those numbers were actually bullshlt and Showtime just let people believe because it was in their favour to do so? They usually reveal numbers but didn't this time for a reason. It's not hard to figure it out.

And as I said before, that was against Fury. Outside of Fury and AJ, Wilder will struggle to sell tickets like he always has. He is not a draw that's why.

[MastaBlasta]

Most champs include rematch clauses ....

Strangely enough though, hearn didn't want to include a rematch for Wilder if he lost to AJ, though he is a champ with the WBC green belt. Part of why the negotiations were kid-play.

[Jax teller]

Strangely enough though, hearn didn't want to include a rematch for Wilder if he lost to AJ, though he is a champ with the WBC green belt. Part of why the negotiations were kid-play.

You being deliberately ****** or what? In business you don't give someone extras if they don't request them especially if it doesn't benefit you in some way.
Wilder agreed to the one way rematch originally (maybe because he hadn't thought about it properly) and then when he didn't agree he got the rematch clause added, maybe he was just wasting time.

[DaNeutral.]

You established that some time ago while babbling about all the money Joshua makes, so I tried using your logic to mock you, but it went over your head because you were too busy being a try hard troll lol

Wilder also would have had a smaller guarantee if Joshua had a pair and accepted the $50M offer (sure you have excuses for that too), so have fun believing that delusion lol

For all those numbers you posted, you conveniently left out their PPV numbers, but anyone reading this mess knows why. It's been a total waste of time talking to you lol

To be fair shelly finkel refusing to send a contract and the offer having a 24 hour deadline and finkel cancelling the planned meeting with hearn is a pretty good excuse not to sign up for the 50 million. Was he supposed to sign on a cigarette paper?

[DaNeutral.]

Strangely enough though, hearn didn't want to include a rematch for Wilder if he lost to AJ, though he is a champ with the WBC green belt. Part of why the negotiations were kid-play.

Is hearn supposed to be promoting wilder now too? Hasn't wilder already got enough managers and advisors? It's their job to request stuff for their fighter.