Should refs/boxing do away with making fighters walk around after a knockdown?

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  • boliodogs
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    #31
    Originally posted by Luilun
    No stop crying Wilder loss that lets the ref know if the fighter can continue. If he walks straight he’s good if he stumbles it’s stopped.You people are a joke you cried when Meldrick Taylor was stopped but cry if Fury is allowed to walk can’t have it both ways
    I didn't cry when Taylor was stopped and thought the ref made the right call. Fury was not given one quick walk test. He was given a few walk tests giving him lots of extra recovery time that may has cost Wilder a KO win.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #32
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Nobody said that but you. Boxers who score knockdowns must go to the neutral corner and nobody has problem about that. We're talking about walk this way tests that give the hurt boxer as much as 20 extra seconds to clear his head and recover.
      if they cant walk then the fight is stopped, i dont see the issue

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      • HarvardBlue
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        #33
        Originally posted by Luilun
        No stop crying Wilder loss that lets the ref know if the fighter can continue. If he walks straight he’s good if he stumbles it’s stopped.You people are a joke you cried when Meldrick Taylor was stopped but cry if Fury is allowed to walk can’t have it both ways
        A better comparison is the Jacobs vs Pirog fight. Jacobs didn't look nearly as hurt as Fury did yet the ref waived the fight off and pushed him back down when he tried to get up. I don't have a problem with stopping both fights or letting both continue. In both instances the ref played a significant role in the outcome of these two fights with different results.

        At least they're trying to make it a standard practice with extra safety precautionary steps.

        The Taylor fight is still a terrible stoppage... I don't care what anyone says.

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          #34
          Originally posted by HitmanTommy
          I know it's for the safety of the fighter, but some of these refs give waaaaaay too much time for a fighter to walk around. I can only imagine how many fighters who were down on the scorecards needing a KO to win end up missing their golden opportunity to put away an opponent while he is out on his feet and has not fully come to his senses only for the ref to give the fighter some crucial seconds to recover.

          That was the fighters only chance to put his opponent away right then! But since the ref is giving extra time, that split second of opportunity has now disappeared!!!

          What the hell is the point of counting to 10 if you're going to give them 4-5 even 6 seconds to walk around???????

          Does anyone else think walking around after beating the count needs to be done away with?
          OMG he's obsessed.

          I see absolutely no problem with it

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          • New England
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            #35
            the ref has the right to evaluate the fighter. it's always been standard to make him walk forward. at some stage some refs, mostly jack rees, started having guys walk left and right. he's a great ref and id ont have a ton of beef with it as long as it's done quickly.


            this is how fights are reffed now, it's done for safety. if you watch old fights and go through eras you'll see the completely different manner in which knockdowns are administered and fights are stopped. refs basically used to start to count. if you could make it to your feet they'd wipe your gloves and you'd go again. if a round ended you could be "saved by the bell" even if you were on the ground. your cornermen could literally pick you up and walk you back to your corner, and revive you with smelling salts. before that you used to literally be able to stand over an opponent and hit him the second he regained his feet.

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            • HitmanTommy
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              #36
              Originally posted by boliodogs
              I agree 100%. The walking tests are unneeded BS that give the hurt boxer way to much recovery time and robs the other boxer of a chance to get the KO win. Some boxers recover quickly. They may be ready to go but after a couple of walking tests they have recovered. When a boxer goes down the ref should watch how he gets up and how steady he is on his legs and look at his eyes and then make his decision to stop the fight or not with NO walking tests. The famous Dempsey Tunney long count gave Tunney 4 or 5 extra seconds of recovery time and fans were angry about that. Many of today's walk to me tests are giving the hurt boxer more than 15 seconds of extra recovery time and they should just quit doing them. If there is a chance the boxer may not be fit to continue then error on the side of safety and stop the fight. Don't do these walking tests and then let the fight continue and rob the other boxer of his chance for a KO because his opponent has recovered during the walking tests.
              Exactly. Whatever happened to covering up and "weathering the storm"?

              I saw a fight in the lightweight division a couple of years ago where a fighter was behind big time on points going into the 11th round and needed a KO. He ended up getting the knockdown. The opponent barely beat the count still wobbly and seeing stars and the ref asked if he was ok. Fighter nodded his head, then the ref made him walk to the corner and walk back still wobbly. At that moment, lots of fans begun booing. Ref grabbed his hands and the fight resumed.

              The fighter behind on points charged straight at him throwing literally everything but the kitchen sink, but it was too late. Those seconds the ref gave his opponent was what did it. His opponent ended up holding on for dear life in the 11th covering up and holding and ended up getting the decision.

              That's just one robbery out of many I'm sure.

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              • Real King Kong
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                #37
                Originally posted by larryxxx..
                I guess you want them to go back to the days where a fighter is floored and the other can stand right over them and as soon as their knees leave the floor they can start hitting them again
                Might as well just be able to kick and stomp their head like the old pride fc.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by boliodogs
                  Yep. ridiculous. If they were unfit to continue before the testing started by the time the testing is done they are ready to go.
                  Exactly, I see a lot of talk about safety, but what can be safer than stopping the fight? No one will take any punches after that!

                  I'm not against having a fighter walk towards the referee, that's reasonable, again, it's the whole walking from one side of the ring to the other.

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                  • Redd Foxx
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                    #39
                    We're paying guys to damage themselves for our entertainment, we can afford them some basic precautions. God forbid it slows the action for you.

                    A sure fire way to kill boxing is to make it MORE dangerous in a time when mainstream culture is sensitive about this stuff.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Zaryu
                      Exactly, I see a lot of talk about safety, but what can be safer than stopping the fight? No one will take any punches after that!

                      I'm not against having a fighter walk towards the referee, that's reasonable, again, it's the whole walking from one side of the ring to the other.
                      Sad stuff.

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