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  • harry-greb
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    #251
    Originally posted by MC Hammer
    25mil like I said is what he is making. So he gets the same minimum despite the fact that he isn't generating any US money.

    That's probably why Hearn brought him to the US for this fight. He would lose money in the UK trying to broadcast it so he just uses his stash from dazn rather than his own funds to actually pay the guy because Joshua won't generate a profit with Big Baby no matter where he fights.

    Just because a guys says something doesn't mean that debunks it. They opened a different area up for the fight. Why do that if it didn't sell. AJ on the otherhand has an arena full of unsold tickets. Go look for yourself:



    Like I said, he is worthless here. Hearn has to pay him his minimum regardless of where he fights, but that doesn't mean he actually generates that much money.
    Ok, if he is getting $25 million, how did they arrive at that figure. They didn't pluck it outta the sky. He's been generating huge revenue in the last 3 or or 4 years.

    Joshua does a million Ppv buys regularly now. It would be no different with miller. They want to introduce him to a primetime U.S. audience before he fights wilder. Now I'm not saying miller is the fight that British fans wanted to see but it would have done big numbers in Britain.
    From what I read they were giving tickets away for the staples. Look at the gate revenue $3.5 million.
    Wilders first ppv fight, 40 fights into his career. His promoters have a lot to answer for. He should be a star. An American heavyweight who flattens everyone he fights.

    Stubhub is a ticket resale website. Of course people are going to try and make a quick buck. But I bet they aren't giving those tickets away.

    Bottom line for me is, Joshua brings in more revenue so he should get a larger slice of the pie.
    If wilder brought in more revenue then wilder should get the larger slice.
    The numbers don't lie

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    • MC Hammer
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      #252
      Originally posted by Tyistall
      **********, I'm American you piece of ****. You can try to spin Wilder ducking all you want, but in the end, he ducked AJ because he knows he will lose that belt. And his fight is free because no one would pay to see that crappy fight. Wilder is not a PPV fighter because he fights bums or guys who have been out for 3 years or guys on heart medication, idiot. Look up Wilder and Fury giving away tickets to firemen. See for yourself you dumbass. I'm not a Wilder fan so I don't have to make up **** to make myself sound right. He's never even fought in front of a sold out crowd hahaha. He's a fraud and his fans (like you) are ******ed
      Couldn't argue with the obvious contradictions I pointed out so you started crying, no problem I get it. It can be frustrating to be made to look like an idiot.

      But, my "non-British" friend, if you were the California resident that you claim to be you would remember the devastating forest fighters that killed many in California last year. And the fire fighters who died doing their job. That's why they were given free tickets. It's an act of respect that also doubles as promotion.

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      • Curt Henning
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        #253
        Originally posted by MC Hammer
        Couldn't argue with the obvious contradictions I pointed out so you started crying, no problem I get it. It can be frustrating to be made to look like an idiot.

        But, my "non-British" friend, if you were the California resident that you claim to be you would remember the devastating forest fighters that killed many in California last year. And the fire fighters who died doing their job. That's why they were given free tickets. It's an act of respect that also doubles as promotion.
        yeah...the way these UK twats would tell it every person in attendance was a firefighter lol....they gave some tickets away....like you said...half out of goodwill and half out of promotion....they didnt give 5k tickets away lol...but thats how these desperate women will try to paint it

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        • MC Hammer
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          #254
          Originally posted by Curt Henning
          yeah...the way these UK twats would tell it every person in attendance was a firefighter lol....they gave some tickets away....like you said...half out of goodwill and half out of promotion....they didnt give 5k tickets away lol...but thats how these desperate women will try to paint it
          Yup and they'd say every ppv was bought from a Gypsy expat that wanted to see Fury. An audience full of Gypsies, firefighters and people paid to fill out the seats smh. These guys are propagandists

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          • Tyistall
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            #255
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            yeah...the way these UK twats would tell it every person in attendance was a firefighter lol....they gave some tickets away....like you said...half out of goodwill and half out of promotion....they didnt give 5k tickets away lol...but thats how these desperate women will try to paint it

            Are you still posting on here you idiot? How much does Wilder pay you to post on here? I really hope you are not that ******

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            • Tyistall
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              #256
              Originally posted by MC Hammer
              Couldn't argue with the obvious contradictions I pointed out so you started crying, no problem I get it. It can be frustrating to be made to look like an idiot.

              But, my "non-British" friend, if you were the California resident that you claim to be you would remember the devastating forest fighters that killed many in California last year. And the fire fighters who died doing their job. That's why they were given free tickets. It's an act of respect that also doubles as promotion.
              We have fires out here every single year. The ones last year were not half as bad as the ones from 2009 or so. And as far as giving away tickets, you can spin that as much as you can but it is a fact. They gave away tickets and sold tickets on Groupon. And they STILL couldn't fill the Staple Cener haha. Wilder and Showtime are not saying how much Wilder is getting because they know that it's about 10% of what he could have made with DAZN.

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              • MC Hammer
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                #257
                Originally posted by Tyistall
                We have fires out here every single year. The ones last year were not half as bad as the ones from 2009 or so. And as far as giving away tickets, you can spin that as much as you can but it is a fact. They gave away tickets and sold tickets on Groupon. And they STILL couldn't fill the Staple Cener haha. Wilder and Showtime are not saying how much Wilder is getting because they know that it's about 10% of what he could have made with DAZN.

                The fire last year were LITERALLY the deadliest and most destructive wild fires in history, but I guess you have seen secret larger fires from your home in Manchester my bad I mean "california". Keep working to keep up the lie friend.



                And you don't know what Wilder is getting. He seems content so I have no reason he took a short on this fight

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                  #258
                  If Wilder was earning a lot then showtime would be singing about it from the rooftop, he obviously isn’t from the calculation. When Mayweather was earning major money they were shouting about it from the rooftop.... and yeah “Wilder is with the same people that got Mayweather”

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                  • Tyistall
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                    #259
                    Originally posted by MC Hammer
                    The fire last year were LITERALLY the deadliest and most destructive wild fires in history, but I guess you have seen secret larger fires from your home in Manchester my bad I mean "california". Keep working to keep up the lie friend.



                    And you don't know what Wilder is getting. He seems content so I have no reason he took a short on this fight

                    Oh I see. I'm telling you right where I live, but I'm somehow (for some reason) lying to you. But Wilder is NOT telling how much he is making, but somehow he is telling the truth???? Hhahahaha yeah, never go full ******. Ans as far as the fires, why on earth would I keep up with the numbers on that? You sure want to talk about ****** ****, but you have no answers when I ask real questions about your boyfriend Wilder. He's a chump and a ducker and a fraud. He's overrated and protected by the WBC for years now. How you idiots idolize him is beyond me because he fights bums, heart patients and guys straight out of rehab (Fury).

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                    • MC Hammer
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                      #260
                      Originally posted by Tyistall
                      Oh I see. I'm telling you right where I live, but I'm somehow (for some reason) lying to you. But Wilder is NOT telling how much he is making, but somehow he is telling the truth???? Hhahahaha yeah, never go full ******. Ans as far as the fires, why on earth would I keep up with the numbers on that? You sure want to talk about ****** ****, but you have no answers when I ask real questions about your boyfriend Wilder. He's a chump and a ducker and a fraud. He's overrated and protected by the WBC for years now. How you idiots idolize him is beyond me because he fights bums, heart patients and guys straight out of rehab (Fury).
                      I don't believe you because in our few interactions you've shown that you don't know anything about the area (you wouldn't have to keep up with the numbers to know it was the worst ever. I live in GA, have no family in California and know that), you speak like you are from England (centre instead of center) and you act like every other Brit I've spoken to online.

                      Wilder on the other hand hasn't shown as much reason to lie. The PPV sales match the expectations of ticket sales and the arena opened up an additional area for the fight.

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