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    #241
    Originally posted by kraftzman
    Why don't Espinoza just focus on helping make fights happen
    His job is to make fights for Showtime, not DAZN.

    Showtime would likely have no problem with the first fight being on PPV, then you can do a rematch in the UK, which can be on DAZN.

    But DAZN is insisting that BOTH FIGHTS be on DAZN. Why exactly would Espinoza want to help with that?

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    • Tyistall
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      #242
      Originally posted by Bigblackted44
      Prove that you live in southern Cali
      What, do you want my address ******* hahahahha. I grew up in Indiana and I moved to LA in '89. I've been here every since. And I've never seen someone blatantly duck another champion like Wilder, other than Bowe of course.

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      • MC Hammer
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        #243
        Originally posted by Tyistall
        Ummm I live in Southern California and I'm a huge boxing fan. I thought about going to the fight but when I found out they were GIVING TICKETS AWAY I figured "why would I pay for tickets that they are giving away. Also, the fight was in no way sold out. They were selling tickets on Groupon and giving tickets away to make the Staples Center look full. The Joshua vs Miller fight tickets are selling for about 3 times what the Wilder vs Breazeale tickets are going for and the AJ vs Miller fight will STILL outsell the Wilder vs Breazeale fight. Stop pumping that fraud up, he lost to Fury, got helped against Ortiz and by turning down 140 million he's running from AJ. He also is scared to fight Whyte too hahaha. So please, see him for what he is, a WBC protected, bum beating, overrated, wild swinging fraud of a chumpion
        You don't live in S. Cali nor are you from the states. quit lying. So they opened up a new area in the arena even tho tickets weren't moving. Makes sense. And I thought AJ was the fastest sellout for boxing in MSG history, how are tickets STILL selling? On StubHub that arena is still empty so even at 3times the cost they will still generate less revenue because Hearn had to buy all of those tickets himself, going millions in the hole and he won't recoup that money from a fight no one is interested in.
        Lastly, it amazes me how Wilders offer just keeps going up. It went from 100mil to 120 to now 140mil. I won't be surprised if it turns to 225 by the end of the year.

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        • Tyistall
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          #244
          Originally posted by MC Hammer
          You don't live in S. Cali nor are you from the states. quit lying. So they opened up a new area in the arena even tho tickets weren't moving. Makes sense. And I thought AJ was the fastest sellout for boxing in MSG history, how are tickets STILL selling? On StubHub that arena is still empty so even at 3times the cost they will still generate less revenue because Hearn had to buy all of those tickets himself, going millions in the hole and he won't recoup that money from a fight no one is interested in.
          Lastly, it amazes me how Wilders offer just keeps going up. It went from 100mil to 120 to now 140mil. I won't be surprised if it turns to 225 by the end of the year.
          Dumbass, I live in Huntington Beach near Goldenwest College. Lived here for 8 years now. Before that I lived in Santa Monica for 10 years hahah, dumbass. I know you want to believe otherwise to make yourself seem right, but you are wrong again. Now, as far as Hearn and the tickets to the Miller fight, That's like saying that Netflix is losing money on their movies, because they don't show the movies in the theaters hahah. They have subscriptions all around the world ******. That's how they make most of their money. That and ads. Wilder is so whack that his next fight is on free TV. Not PPV, not and app but for free. And if Breazeale KO's him, he gets nothing. They gave tickets away tothe Fury fight and they will have to do the same thing for the Breazeale fight. That just shows you have whack your idol is, he can't sell out a high school gym. But he wants 50-50 with a guy who sells out soccer stadiums ad is on PPV???? Nah man, that's just ******

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          • Jubei
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            #245
            Showtime would be criticized less if they fired Espinoza.
            Wilder would be criticized if he would ever take a fight where he isnt protected by Haymon and his judges.

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              #246
              Originally posted by Tyistall
              Ummm I live in Southern California and I'm a huge boxing fan. I thought about going to the fight but when I found out they were GIVING TICKETS AWAY I figured "why would I pay for tickets that they are giving away. Also, the fight was in no way sold out. They were selling tickets on Groupon and giving tickets away to make the Staples Center look full. The Joshua vs Miller fight tickets are selling for about 3 times what the Wilder vs Breazeale tickets are going for and the AJ vs Miller fight will STILL outsell the Wilder vs Breazeale fight. Stop pumping that fraud up, he lost to Fury, got helped against Ortiz and by turning down 140 million he's running from AJ. He also is scared to fight Whyte too hahaha. So please, see him for what he is, a WBC protected, bum beating, overrated, wild swinging fraud of a chumpion
              You speak the truth

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              • harry-greb
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                #247
                Originally posted by MC Hammer
                AJ isn't making 30 million. He stands to make up to 25mil. Hearn said it was possible with MSG buying the fight, sponsors and foreign rights that he could get 30. The fact of the matter is with the deal AJ signed with Hearn Hearn HAS to pay AJ at least that much per fight. AJ is not gonna generate that much in his fight.

                MSG isn't sold out. Go to StubHub and see an arena full of tickets available. Hearn tried to scalp tickets for a fight no one is interested in.

                The Staples CENTER was sold out and they opened up extra seats in the arena. And the fact that you spelled center centre let's me know you are British so your opinion on dazn is irrelevant. You don't have access. AJ is worthless here to let you know so he would not be A side on a US fight
                Don't say "the fact of the matter" when discussing Joshua and hear nd deal. Unless you are a matchroom or Joshua lawyer you don't know what's in the contract.
                Is he making 25 or 30 million? Which is it?

                The guy below us in the thread de-bunked your staples centre/ msg argument. They were giving tickets away for fury v wilder

                Aj is worthless?? Come on now.
                Of course he will be the A-side. His first fight in America is in msg (not the theatre) which will be sold out. He's getting 25-30 million. but he's worthless!!!!!!!!

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                • MC Hammer
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                  #248
                  Originally posted by harry-greb
                  Don't say "the fact of the matter" when discussing Joshua and hear nd deal. Unless you are a matchroom or Joshua lawyer you don't know what's in the contract.
                  Is he making 25 or 30 million? Which is it?

                  The guy below us in the thread de-bunked your staples centre/ msg argument. They were giving tickets away for fury v wilder

                  Aj is worthless?? Come on now.
                  Of course he will be the A-side. His first fight in America is in msg (not the theatre) which will be sold out. He's getting 25-30 million. but he's worthless!!!!!!!!
                  25mil like I said is what he is making. So he gets the same minimum despite the fact that he isn't generating any US money.

                  That's probably why Hearn brought him to the US for this fight. He would lose money in the UK trying to broadcast it so he just uses his stash from dazn rather than his own funds to actually pay the guy because Joshua won't generate a profit with Big Baby no matter where he fights.

                  Just because a guys says something doesn't mean that debunks it. They opened a different area up for the fight. Why do that if it didn't sell. AJ on the otherhand has an arena full of unsold tickets. Go look for yourself:



                  Like I said, he is worthless here. Hearn has to pay him his minimum regardless of where he fights, but that doesn't mean he actually generates that much money.

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                  • MC Hammer
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                    #249
                    Originally posted by Tyistall
                    Dumbass, I live in Huntington Beach near Goldenwest College. Lived here for 8 years now. Before that I lived in Santa Monica for 10 years hahah, dumbass. I know you want to believe otherwise to make yourself seem right, but you are wrong again. Now, as far as Hearn and the tickets to the Miller fight, That's like saying that Netflix is losing money on their movies, because they don't show the movies in the theaters hahah. They have subscriptions all around the world ******. That's how they make most of their money. That and ads. Wilder is so whack that his next fight is on free TV. Not PPV, not and app but for free. And if Breazeale KO's him, he gets nothing. They gave tickets away tothe Fury fight and they will have to do the same thing for the Breazeale fight. That just shows you have whack your idol is, he can't sell out a high school gym. But he wants 50-50 with a guy who sells out soccer stadiums ad is on PPV???? Nah man, that's just ******
                    You not making sense. You know PBC is on dazn in other countries too right? So according to your own logic Wilder is getting subscription and ad revenue along with actually being seen by people in the US. Something that is not gonna happen with AJ.

                    You go out of the way to **** on Wilders supposed failure in ticket sales, which you're lying about, but turn around and say that it's okay that AJ isn't selling tickets in MSG.

                    What's even worse is the lame that you are, you talk down on Wilder for getting a high site fee for a free to air show, when he DEMANDED it be free. You were the same type that talked **** when SHO tried to make it ppv saying "the don't want to invest in him".

                    You Brits are something else with that circular logic.

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                    • Tyistall
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                      #250
                      Originally posted by MC Hammer
                      You not making sense. You know PBC is on dazn in other countries too right? So according to your own logic Wilder is getting subscription and ad revenue along with actually being seen by people in the US. Something that is not gonna happen with AJ.

                      You go out of the way to **** on Wilders supposed failure in ticket sales, which you're lying about, but turn around and say that it's okay that AJ isn't selling tickets in MSG.

                      What's even worse is the lame that you are, you talk down on Wilder for getting a high site fee for a free to air show, when he DEMANDED it be free. You were the same type that talked **** when SHO tried to make it ppv saying "the don't want to invest in him".

                      You Brits are something else with that circular logic.
                      **********, I'm American you piece of ****. You can try to spin Wilder ducking all you want, but in the end, he ducked AJ because he knows he will lose that belt. And his fight is free because no one would pay to see that crappy fight. Wilder is not a PPV fighter because he fights bums or guys who have been out for 3 years or guys on heart medication, idiot. Look up Wilder and Fury giving away tickets to firemen. See for yourself you dumbass. I'm not a Wilder fan so I don't have to make up **** to make myself sound right. He's never even fought in front of a sold out crowd hahaha. He's a fraud and his fans (like you) are ******ed

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