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  • W1LL
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    #61
    Originally posted by Ray*
    Did it work for Fury when he went to Wilder fight and called him out? What was the excuse given by Wilder then? “I have a mandatory to take care of” even though Fury himself had a mandatory for the IBF belt, even though a unification would have meant Wilder was able to fight Fury then! Like I said it takes two to tango, Wilder would never take that fight unless it’s on showtime, in America and under his protective terms.
    Alright lad calm down. I'd just find it funny seeing AJ turning up the heat. Be funny seeing Wilder's reaction after getting punked at his own show.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Madison boxing
      Hes criticisised because hes spent months and months calling joshua a coward and then when he offers 100 mill wilder turns it down and start talking about marinating and how big fights take time. He looks like a twat now.
      What is stopping Joshua from making an offer on June 2? Why did the Breazeale fight have to be on DAZN as a condition of getting Joshua?

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      • marvin douglas
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        #63
        Originally posted by TreJac
        Sounds like the white man is milking Wilder for more money! They have been paying Wilder pennies up to this point compared to what Joshua has been making but now Espinoza is saying Wilder is going to be compensated? Really? Who can they get to face Wilder for a $20-40 million payday without Joshua and Fury? No one!
        White man? Last time I check Al Hayman was black, right. And Shelly ain't miking anybody. He came out of retirement to help Wilder get good fights.

        A.J. on the other hand is massively popular in Europe and when he hits the U.S. his popularity will sky-rocket. Wilder's career is coming to a close and he couldn't even beat Fury. His marketability took a hit off of the draw.

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        • bigdunny1
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          #64
          The only reason to pass on the DAZN offer is not because Showtime is paying him more or even similar money for Breazelle...spoiler they aren't. It's because Haymon don't want the fight outside of PBC and he is promising Wilder do me this solid and I will find a way to make up the money you missing out on the back end for a future fight with Joshua. They are banking on making up this money by getting Wilder a better deal then the Joshua 40M Guarantee DAZN offered (20M for Breazelle, 40M for Joshua and 40M for the rematch). You take less from Showtime for the first fight and hope to make more then 40M when you do fight Joshua. Wilder is taking a loss on the Breazelle fight with hopes of making that up by landing a better Joshua deal afterwards. Maybe it works out and he does get a better deal that makes up for what he lost but in the meantime he is the one taking all the risk because he has no long term contract with guaranteed money.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Ray*
            Did it work for Fury when he went to Wilder fight and called him out? What was the excuse given by Wilder then? “I have a mandatory to take care of” even though Fury himself had a mandatory for the IBF belt, even though a unification would have meant Wilder was able to fight Fury then! Like I said it takes two to tango, Wilder would never take that fight unless it’s on showtime, in America and under his protective terms.
            Fury never fought again after stepping in the ring during postfight interview.. He was under investigation for failing ped test and knew he was facing a suspension

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              #66
              Originally posted by hitking
              Y’all are dumb. Wilder didn’t turn down AJ. He turned down signing a multi-fight deal with DAZN in order to get AJ.
              I'll quote this so that people can read it again.

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                #67
                Originally posted by marvin douglas
                Again, according to Forbes, the 325,000 buys were world-wide, not just the U.S. Market, and the fight was considerably cheaper outside the U.S., especially in Europe.
                325k sells wasn’t worldwide was only us ppv other countries usually bid with broadcasters in they countries get rights to telecast fight

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                  #68
                  fans don't give two ***s about the money side of it

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                  • marvin douglas
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by hitking
                    Y’all are dumb. Wilder didn’t turn down AJ. He turned down signing a multi-fight deal with DAZN in order to get AJ.
                    Yeah, but the point of the article is that had the money been there, Wilder would have taken the multi-fight deal. There is no way Wilder would have turned down a guaranteed 120 mil for four fights . That's 30 mil a fight and he barely got 10 mil for Fury. That DANZ crap is just crap .

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by marvin douglas
                      Again, according to Forbes, the 325,000 buys were world-wide, not just the U.S. Market, and the fight was considerably cheaper outside the U.S., especially in Europe.
                      Nah, those were just US buys. No one reports worldwide numbers. Heck, UK PPV buys are never released by reporters, but one site does it, forgot what it is called.

                      If Coppinger/Iole/Rafael/Pugmire are releasing numbers, they are strictly US PPV buys. They wouldn't be releasing the UK PPV numbers.

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