Should Dillian Whyte be installed as the WBC Mandatory?

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  • Rock&Roll
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    #51
    Originally posted by Ray*
    Definitely, i don't think he needs to fight anyone to solidify that too. His resume is better than most of HW, to have the resume he has now and never to have fought for a title, shows you how bad the sport is. All these guys (Joshua, Fury, Ortiz, Wilder, Breazeale, Miller etc) didn't do enough to get their shot.
    Yeah, but you shouldn’t be able to cherry pick your way to the title by getting matched with certain type of opponents and avoiding others. I mean, you can do that anyway with 27 world titles floating around, but you shouldn’t be able to do it within a single abc org.

    He had a final eliminator ordered but like most other HW’s, avoided Ortiz like the plague.
    BoxingScene.com has been advised that the World Boxing Council has ordered heavyweights Luis Ortiz and Dillian Whyte to take part in a WBC final eliminator. The winner would become the mandatory challenger to WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs).

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      #52
      Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
      Look at this clown trying to change the subject. I don’t care who is better. Dillian Whyte ran from two eliminators so he has to get in the back of the line. Point blank period. No matter how good YOU think Parker is the point is Whyte ducked the Pulev eliminator to fight Joseph Parker. And he ducked the Ortiz eliminator to fight Chisora. This not a discussion about Parker skills we’re talking about why Whyte doesn’t deserve a title shot until he fights in a final eliminator

      Amen to that!

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        #53
        Originally posted by Rock&Roll
        Yeah, but you shouldn’t be able to cherry pick your way to the title by getting matched with certain type of opponents and avoiding others. I mean, you can do that anyway with 27 world titles floating around, but you shouldn’t be able to do it within a single abc org.

        He had a final eliminator ordered but like most other HW’s, avoided Ortiz like the plague.
        https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...rdered--127502
        I don't give two shit about the Ortiz fight not happening. They ordered a secondary mandatory, so i understand why he fought another high ranked opponent (Parker) instead of Ortiz...

        Pick your way through a title? What did the current beltholder do before they got their chances? Who did Joshua fought that was ranked high when he beat Martin, Who did Wilder beat before he got his WBC belt?

        Who did Breazeale beat? Who did Ortiz beat? Molina? If you as a boxing fan can sit there and say "He wanted to cherry pick" his way to a title shot then you are a disgrace as a fight fan.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Rock&Roll
          Do you want me to talk about Don King and We Be Crooks? Let’s talk about mandatory challengers ONLY, since we’re on the topic.
          In every instance you listed, a big star was installed as mandatory challenger. The WBC has always catered to the big stars as the WBC's explicit purpose in boxing is to help facilitate big fights. That is the WBC's main goal. To mediate between promoters and try to encourage that the big fights happen.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Rock&Roll
            Yeah, but you shouldn’t be able to cherry pick your way to the title by getting matched with certain type of opponents and avoiding others. I mean, you can do that anyway with 27 world titles floating around, but you shouldn’t be able to do it within a single abc org.

            He had a final eliminator ordered but like most other HW’s, avoided Ortiz like the plague.
            https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...rdered--127502
            Stop lying kid, you are pathetic, WBC never ordered a final eliminator vs Ortiz, Beyonce Wildher is ducking Whyte TILL THIS DAY

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              #56
              Originally posted by Boksfan
              Stop lying kid, you are pathetic, WBC never ordered a final eliminator vs Ortiz
              World Boxing Council President Mauricio Sulaiman would love to sanction a final eliminator between heavyweight contender Dillian Whyte and Luis Ortiz. The two heavyweight have been trading words for over a week. Ortiz has been calling out Whyte - after the British boxer claimed the Cuban boxer was not really willing to face him.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Ray*
                I don't give two shit about the Ortiz fight not happening. They ordered a secondary mandatory, so i understand why he fought another high ranked opponent (Parker) instead of Ortiz...

                Pick your way through a title? What did the current beltholder do before they got their chances? Who did Joshua fought that was ranked high when he beat Martin, Who did Wilder beat before he got his WBC belt?

                Who did Breazeale beat? Who did Ortiz beat? Molina? If you as a boxing fan can sit there and say "He wanted to cherry pick" his way to a title shot then you are a disgrace as a fight fan.
                Jesus Ray, is it my job to explain everything to you?

                We are not talking about AJ or Wilders path to a title, we are talking about the man who has avoided TWO final elimators - fact!

                Breazeale was fighting Stiverne for the final eliminatior (Stiverne was mandatory at the time). Ortiz pissed dirty with 'blood pressure' meds for Wilder fight, so the mando Stiverne fought Wilder instead. Molina was then to fight Breazeale for final eliminator. Breezeale stopped him.

                Ortiz was beating Wilder and had him out on his feet. The corrupt wbc ref even gave Wilder some more time at start of next round, so it's fair to say Ortiz is on the same level as Wilder and should be high up on the rankings, or given a rematch.
                Isn't it logical then that Ortiz AND Whyte fight an eliminator for the title hence: https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...rdered--127502
                Whyte chose to fight Chisora instead.
                Also, Pulev wants his chance, hence: https://www.boxingscene.com/dillian-...rdered--126807
                Whyte chose to fight Parker instead.

                Whyte could have fought AJ in his last fight for THREE trinkets but choose not to, now he is trying to jump the que. Breezeale had to wait for Wilder vs Stiverne and fought the final elimintor as mentioned above.

                Whyte is a fu#king que jumper!!!

                If you as a boxing fan can sit there and say "he wanted to fight an elimintor" in order to secure a title shot then you are a disgrace as a fight fan.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Granath
                  He already had a title shot against Joshua and was KTFO. His next best win is a somewhat controversial win over Parker. Ortiz also hasn't lost since his KO against Wilder.

                  So let those two fight it out in the losers' bracket. Winner gets another title shot.
                  agreed winner fights fury

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    Whyte ducked Pulev to fight Parker

                    Shows how little you know.
                    And it shows why fighting in the UK is so important to him.

                    With that headbutt not ruled a KD the scorecards then become

                    114-112 Parker, 114-112 Whyte and 113-113

                    Isn't that the biggest win to ever happen in boxing? The ending with Whyte holding onto Parker for dear life in those last 20 seconds just looks pathetic ending in a draw.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Rock&Roll
                      Jesus Ray, is it my job to explain everything to you?

                      We are not talking about AJ or Wilders path to a title, we are talking about the man who has avoided TWO final elimators - fact!

                      Breazeale was fighting Stiverne for the final eliminatior (Stiverne was mandatory at the time). Ortiz pissed dirty with 'blood pressure' meds for Wilder fight, so the mando Stiverne fought Wilder instead. Molina was then to fight Breazeale for final eliminator. Breezeale stopped him.

                      Ortiz was beating Wilder and had him out on his feet. The corrupt wbc ref even gave Wilder some more time at start of next round, so it's fair to say Ortiz is on the same level as Wilder and should be high up on the rankings, or given a rematch.
                      Isn't it logical then that Ortiz AND Whyte fight an eliminator for the title hence: https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ort...rdered--127502
                      Whyte chose to fight Chisora instead.
                      Also, Pulev wants his chance, hence: https://www.boxingscene.com/dillian-...rdered--126807
                      Whyte chose to fight Parker instead.

                      Whyte could have fought AJ in his last fight for THREE trinkets but choose not to, now he is trying to jump the que. Breezeale had to wait for Wilder vs Stiverne and fought the final elimintor as mentioned above.

                      Whyte is a fu#king que jumper!!!

                      If you as a boxing fan can sit there and say "he wanted to fight an elimintor" in order to secure a title shot then you are a disgrace as a fight fan.
                      You don’t need to explain anything to me, am questioning your knowledge and you as a fight fan. Any fight fan that sits there and questions Whyte right to fight for a title must be delusional. He has done more than everyone. More than the guys getting a chance at the WBC belt (Specifically), we know it’s boxing politics that’s keeping him from fighting Wilder and people like yourself are fine with it.

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