Should Dillian Whyte be installed as the WBC Mandatory?

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  • _Rexy_
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    #61
    Originally posted by Ray*
    You don’t need to explain anything to me, am questioning your knowledge and you as a fight fan. Any fight fan that sits there and questions Whyte right to fight for a title must be delusional. He has done more than everyone. More than the guys getting a chance at the WBC belt (Specifically), we know it’s boxing politics that’s keeping him from fighting Wilder and people like yourself are fine with it.
    It's not just Wilder. The Final Eliminator for the WBA Super Championship was Povetkin vs Price but nobody thought that was a mismatch like Breazele vs Molina?

    Whyte could have fought Ortiz. Whyte could have fought Pulev. Even after turning down two final eliminators, he still got a contract sent to him to fight AJ and turned it down. That's three strikes.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Ray*
      You don’t need to explain anything to me, am questioning your knowledge and you as a fight fan. Any fight fan that sits there and questions Whyte right to fight for a title must be delusional. He has done more than everyone. More than the guys getting a chance at the WBC belt (Specifically), we know it’s boxing politics that’s keeping him from fighting Wilder and people like yourself are fine with it.
      Whyte doesn't need a 'right to fight for the title' he could have fought for 3 titles in his last fight ffs...that's the only delusional thing here. If he wants the wbc route he has to play by the rules, which get made up on the fly. I really don't give a flying f#ck who has the wbc trinket - Wilder, Pulev, Breezeale, Fury. Whoever has it or wants it must fight a final eliminator chosen/approved by the abc org. Neither you, I or Whyte make the rules up, but we have to play by them.
      Btw, my knowledge on definitions ain't too bad...
      Stubborn: Having or showing a dogged determination not to change one's attitude or position on something, especially in spite of good arguments or reasons to do so.

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        #63
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        And it shows why fighting in the UK is so important to him.

        With that headbutt not ruled a KD the scorecards then become

        114-112 Parker, 114-112 Whyte and 113-113

        Isn't that the biggest win to ever happen in boxing? The ending with Whyte holding onto Parker for dear life in those last 20 seconds just looks pathetic ending in a draw.
        It’s impossible to speculate how things would have panned out if one thing didn’t happen.

        Whyte isn’t really known to be a dirty fighter, so I don’t think it’s fair to say that’s why it’s important to fight in the UK.

        However, it was a PPV event in the O2 that paid him millions, whereas the Pulev fight was in a shopping mall for 200k.

        Easy choice.

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          #64
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          It’s impossible to speculate how things would have panned out if one thing didn’t happen.

          Whyte isn’t really known to be a dirty fighter, so I don’t think it’s fair to say that’s why it’s important to fight in the UK.

          However, it was a PPV event in the O2 that paid him millions, whereas the Pulev fight was in a shopping mall for 200k.

          Easy choice.
          it's not impossible to speculate what the scorecards would have been had the correct call been made though.

          I do see people on here saying "if the butt never happened..." and that **** is impossible, but with the cards it's just math.

          And I wouldn't call him a particularly clean fighter either. After all, AJ is right to hate the guy. He didn't disclose his kickboxing experience and was beating the **** out of inexperienced young men. AJ getting his revenge was very sweet IMO.

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            #65
            Originally posted by _Rexy_
            it's not impossible to speculate what the scorecards would have been had the correct call been made though.

            I do see people on here saying "if the butt never happened..." and that **** is impossible, but with the cards it's just math.

            And I wouldn't call him a particularly clean fighter either. After all, AJ is right to hate the guy. He didn't disclose his kickboxing experience and was beating the **** out of inexperienced young men. AJ getting his revenge was very sweet IMO.
            A bit of an exaggeration i'd say.

            He's not really a dirty fighter, AJ is more dirty than Whyte is for example.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Ray*
              I don't give two shit about the Ortiz fight not happening. They ordered a secondary mandatory, so i understand why he fought another high ranked opponent (Parker) instead of Ortiz...
              Why do you understand it? I mean, I understand it. Hearn thought Parker was a way safer fight than Ortiz. But why fight a guy that brings you no closer to a title shot instead of fighting a guy that guarantees you a title shot? Even if the title shot is a year or two away, it's still better to have that in your back pocket than no title shot at all.


              Pick your way through a title? What did the current beltholder do before they got their chances? Who did Joshua fought that was ranked high when he beat Martin, Who did Wilder beat before he got his WBC belt?
              Joshua wasn't a mandatory. He was a big star and offered a ton of money to one of the champions. If Whyte was a big star, he could have done the same thing.

              As for Wilder, he was a mandatory. He fought who he needed to fight. It's not always about beating the best, it's about strategizing, looking at the ratings of the four orgs, and figuring out a logical path to a title shot.

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