Comments Thread For: Bellew: I'm Not Sure Wilder & Fury Believe They Can Beat Joshua

[Sosay]

Who takes this bum seriously? Slopping AJ constantly. All 3 are on BS and could force the fight at anytime but why would they, good money fighting guys they know theyll beat

[Toffee]

Hello Mr. Toffee, anyone home? Your boy was offered 50 mil for a one fight deal. What was his reply? "No thanks mate", as he was sipping his earl grey tea!

Even you don't believe that a serious deal was offered back then.

If you need evidence of who is trying to make this fight, and who doesn't want it yet just look at the last month where concrete offers were made and rejected.

Team Wilder don't want this fight yet. They've said it very openly. It will be worth more in 12 months.

You don't need to try to take sides. They've told you exactly what they're doing.

[Jkp]

No it can't. Wilder just received a huge offer and is 'betting on himself" that it will be worth more later.

It doesn't matter what the offer is right now. It will be worth more later.

Which is another way of saying "we don't want the fight yet".

It's out there in statements. We don't need to argue it anymore.

AJ already has a fight booked. So its not a fight that can happen now anyway.

What happens after these fights will truly show whos ducking who.

I dont blame Wilder for not wanting to sell his soul and all his promotional rights to DAZN , and stab his current team in the back. Although he probably should of done it for $100m regardless. But no one knows the details of that contract, or even if AJ fight was guaranteed? There must have at least been clauses around him losing to Miller. If AJ lost to miller, he would be fighting him again in am immediate rematch. So I dont see how they can guarantee Wilder an AJ fight?

[HTown Killer]

Now is the year to make the Joshua an Wilder fight, since Wilder went an fought fury already so it makes sense. Everyone is just pissed since it looked like the fury an Wilder rematch was gonna happen right away an then hoping the momentum of the rematch jump-starting the promotion of the winner facing Joshua later in the year which would've went perfect since Joshua is making his US debut in the summer. It just sucks since that was the fairytale scenario but we all know how the ******ed boxing politics work

[peplz]

Regardless of what legions of uk fans of Hearn and Joshua say and how they troll the internet in lopsided fashion (not saying you are british I don’t know you) the issue seems to be that wilder doesn’t want to sign with dazn and fight on an app that appears to not have made an impact in the USA in terms of subscription. Both wilder and fury are fighting on networks that can reach the majority of Americans in ESPN and FOX/Showtime and their app and ppv wings. And what no one seems to want to admit that every time hearn says he makes an offer for wilder or for tank Davis it comes with mandatory options for the fight to be on dazn or with a contract to stay with dazn for a certain number of fights....something most of the PBC guys seem unwilling to do. These mandatory “dazn only” offers don’t seem to be in place for Top Rank-Matchroom fighters. Hearn even demands the charlos sign with dazn and Hearn doesn’t even represent anyone the charlos would fight on that network.
I am old enough to remember that dlh first began to promote it was with the understanding that he would not be like Don King, and eventually golden Boy, at that time, became the top promotion in the USA. That showed me that fighters then were more willing to work with dlh than even let’s say king and arum. There are fighters who simply don’t want to deal with Hearn because they don’t like his practices. The truth is Hearn is trying desperately to establish himself as the power broker in American boxing and he is trying to use dazn to do it. He has not signed not one star since forming Matchroom USA, not one. There is a reason why dazn has to turn to skipper to talk to wilder, there is a reason why dlh said “Eddie Hearn is his own promoter we have our own deal with dazn” in reference to the “you must sign with dazn to fight a dazn fighter” comments that were pointed at PBC fighters. Why would anyone at PBC want to have any dealings with Hearn and dazn if this is his approach? Arum and Haymon don’t demand fighters sign with ESPN, FOX, and Showtime to fight their fighters?
The real issue is the PBC fighters 1, don’t want to fight on an app that no one has and get contractually tied to a platform that may not be around in the long run for American boxing as evidenced to the price hike that happened maybe 48 hours after Deontay turned them down. And 2, don’t want to do help Hearn in his attempts to hurt PBC as a brand which is what he really wants. He wants those PBC fighters....when he first came over he made offers to Broner, Garcia, Spence, Wilder, the Charlos, Davis, and of course Vargas, Daniels, and Andrade. He specifically wanted PBC fighters because he saw what was going on in the USA when PBC launched in the time buy days of 2m-6m viewers on FOX, CBS, and NBC.
This of course is ignored by the legions of online troll fans of Hearn because out of nationalism they want to see Hearn replace haymon out of tribalism, they want to see dazn succeed because it’s a british company. They won’t admit this of course but they know it’s the truth.

Why is it that people who are trying to defend Deontay Wilder feel the need to write loooooong azz posts like these? Or they have to talk about *******uality. Or talk about Eddie Hearn. Or all of the above. Might it be that they're trying convince themselves that their bs is true?

[Jkp]

Now is the year to make the Joshua an Wilder fight, since Wilder went an fought fury already so it makes sense. Everyone is just pissed since it looked like the fury an Wilder rematch was gonna happen right away an then hoping the momentum of the rematch jump-starting the promotion of the winner facing Joshua later in the year which would've went perfect since Joshua is making his US debut in the summer. It just sucks since that was the fairytale scenario but we all know how the ******ed boxing politics work

Thats not a fairytale scenario. Thats the logical and most obvious scenario. :-(

But its a shame Fury bottled it at the last minute, and single handedly turned the heavy weight division back into a circus .

[Jkp]

Hey Bellew, Go ask ***** Whyte about AJ's "rematch terms" before talking rubbish.

Its common knowledge, AJ is still wants to be the A side in a rematch, even if he gets beat, Eddie bakes that into his contracts.

[Alan Smithee]

Even you don't believe that a serious deal was offered back then.

If you need evidence of who is trying to make this fight, and who doesn't want it yet just look at the last month where concrete offers were made and rejected.

Team Wilder don't want this fight yet. They've said it very openly. It will be worth more in 12 months.

You don't need to try to take sides. They've told you exactly what they're doing.

Bottom line? Wilder will crush that stiff! Then the excuses will fly. If Wilder comes out fast, 1st or 2nd round knockout. If Wilder comes out measured then A.J may last 6 or 7!

[P4Pdunny]

I think the Wilder and AJ fight can be made this year, thats the only one out of them that we may get if any at all