Are there any posters on here willing to admit they had Wilder wrong?

[Mirror Universe]

If he was that desperate he would sign it not just “Accept it”..... months down the line Finkel “We never accept the terms” so you are not being accurate.

They accepted terms, then Hearn sent a contract that didn't reflect the terms that had been accepted. It was a bait and switch. Wilder never ever had the opportunity to sign a contract that would have guaranteed a Joshua fight in 2018. Hearn wanted him to sign a contract in June 2018 for an April 2019 fight, which was ludicrous.

[DaBeastO]

He was desperate enough to accept 15 flat. He clearly wanted the fight. Now he's holding out for 50/50. If you want to call that a duck, go ahead. I'm sure we agree he's not worth 50/50 right now. But to say he never wanted the fight is inaccurate. He clearly wanted it.

wbc wba ibf that is you isn't it lol get this guy outta here!

[Mirror Universe]

You sound like you don’t know much about the sport. Is Wilder next fight on PPV? If Hearn is “Lying” about Joshua being free to fight on any network in America does that mean Wilder is lying when he said he is a free agent? Last time I heard slaves aren’t free agents.

Showtime and ESPN both made lucrative offers to put Wilder's next fight on PPV. Wilder chose to take less to keep the fight off of PPV. Fighters do this all the time when they're trying to build their brand and profile.

Hearn isn't lying about Joshua contractually being able to fight on PPV, he's lying about being willing to allow it. Hearn's bread and butter is DAZN and he needs to do everything possible to keep DAZN happy. Wilder doesn't have an exclusive promotional agreement with anyone and has the freedom to demand that his fight be on Showtime instead of PPV. Joshua has to do what Hearn says and if Joshua wants his fight on PPV, but Hearn wants it on DAZN, it goes on DAZN.

[LacedUp]

What key term are you claiming was missing from the term sheet?

the term sheet

[Mirror Universe]

the term sheet

What else would you call the offer that was emailed to Joshua and the rest of Joshua's team?

All of the key terms were included in the offer.

The purse.

The PPV upside.

The split of the upside.

Whether there would be a rematch clause.

What months the fight could take place in.

Who chooses the venue.

[Granath]

Markets aren't static. They're constantly responding to changes in supply or demand. To state that the entrance of DAZN, the threat that their model poses to established players and the money they've already spent in acquisition costs alone hasn't impacted on this process is to fundamentally misunderstand the current boxing landscape.

You're talking to someone with an economics degree. I didn't say DAZN didn't have an impact. DAZN is just cutting through the BS of the terrible offers and publicly establishing a realistic assessment of the worth.

But the money has always been there for big fights and that's seen time and time again. Wilder's value didn't suddenly jump $25M because DAZN offered it to him. It's just that the offers before from Hearn have consistently been lowballs. They offered AJ $50 and it was a nonstarter - not even worth presenting the deal - because no fighter worth his salt like AJ is going to cap his earnings potential on such a huge fight. Undefeated heavyweight champs with great KO records don't fight every day. The public drools over those kinds of fights and they're always at a premium.

The whole point is that the ducking claims on BOTH sides are entirely horsecrap. They're continuing to build the gate and each side is seeing who blinks first. Eventually that pot of gold will get so large that it won't matter as long as they keep knocking out their opponents.

Wilder has to blink first because at his age his time frame is much shorter. He needs to fight AJ in the next couple of years before he slips to have any chance at the main bout and the inevitable rematch. This fight happens either in November or in 2020 and both guys will make huge bank.

[LacedUp]

What else would you call the offer that was emailed to Joshua and the rest of Joshua's team?

All of the key terms were included in the offer.

The purse.

The PPV upside.

The split of the upside.

Whether there would be a rematch clause.

What months the fight could take place in.

Who chooses the venue.

yeah none of that is true.

[LacedUp]

Showtime and ESPN both made lucrative offers to put Wilder's next fight on PPV. Wilder chose to take less to keep the fight off of PPV. Fighters do this all the time when they're trying to build their brand and profile.

Hearn isn't lying about Joshua contractually being able to fight on PPV, he's lying about being willing to allow it. Hearn's bread and butter is DAZN and he needs to do everything possible to keep DAZN happy. Wilder doesn't have an exclusive promotional agreement with anyone and has the freedom to demand that his fight be on Showtime instead of PPV. Joshua has to do what Hearn says and if Joshua wants his fight on PPV, but Hearn wants it on DAZN, it goes on DAZN.

We all know you're that wba ibf wbo guy.

Please shut up and take your ban like a man

[Mirror Universe]

yeah none of that is true.

So you're just going to repeatedly deny undeniable fact? Well there's not much point in a conversation then.

[LacedUp]

So you're just going to repeatedly deny undeniable fact? Well there's not much point in a conversation then.

Yeah it's not a fact. The only fact is that you're the WBA WBO WBC or whatever alt.

Do you get paid for this account too?