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  • jglvz256
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    #81
    Originally posted by Mirror Universe
    That's what my source is saying and he was right about DAZN's offer. Don't forget I broke the story about the DAZN offer way before anyone else had it.
    I liked you more when you were WBC-WBA-IBF, your new persona is too up itself.

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    • bigdunny1
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      #82
      Wilder is the one taking all the risk. He showing loyalty to Haymon passing up on 2 networks willing to pay him more for the same damn fight then PBC. Honestly I thought the only way he stayed was because Showtime was going to announce they were matching the 100M offer DAZN gave him or giving him a Fury type long term deal. This is all about Haymon and Showtime not wanting Wilder fighting on another network and not about what's the best deal for Wilder. If it's about getting your fighter the best deal this is not the best deal.

      Laughing at people trying to compare this to Manny not taking the first big offer to fight Floyd. The difference is Manny was already making huge money, already one of the highest paid fighters in history, already selling 1M PPVs, he was slightly paid less then Floyd who was the #1 highest paid fighter in history. Wilder hasn't banked that kind of money, he's not a PPV star. He is nowhere the highest paid in history or in today's boxing. Canelo, GGG, Joshua, Fury, Pacquiao all getting huge deals. Crawford getting paid more. Spence probably was paid more to fight Mikey then Wilder will be his next fight, Spencie if he fights Pacquiao next will likely get paid more then Wilder ever has. The gap between what Wilder is making and the top guys is massive. And Wilder ain't young he's 34 older then most of these guys and hasn't been paid yet and almost lost his last fight. Any loss would be catostrophic. He's also fighting in the most dangerous division because of the size of heavyweights and how hard they hit.

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #83
        Originally posted by KTFOKING
        Huh? When did I say DAZN and SHO would do a Co-PPV?

        And SHO was willing to offer 50M to Joshua last time and this fight wasn't nearly as big as it is now. I wouldn't be too sure they wouldn't be able to provide a bigger guarantee here.
        Dnt be angry idiot, SHO didn't offer any 50mil. BT was to raise part of that money and we all know the implications.

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        • champion4ever
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          #84
          Originally posted by jglvz256
          Was your $300m Showtime Wilder deal announced yet or does that come later?
          Not yet; So far they have not announced any numbers yet. They are being very reticent about the money.

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          • KTFOKING
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            #85
            Originally posted by pillowfists98
            You are gullible as hell. The 50 million never existed.
            You're getting mind f'd believing the 50M was a factor in the fight not happening. That ended up creating a huge distraction when it became irrelevant the second Joshua wanted the fight in the UK.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Laligalaliga
              Dnt be angry idiot, SHO didn't offer any 50mil. BT was to raise part of that money and we all know the implications.
              Angry? Not angry at all, but certainly seems like you are.

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              • bigdunny1
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                #87
                Originally posted by Falkano
                So he turned down $20m and has taken a non ppv deal? So let's say he gets $5m tops. Just goes to show how badly this guy is being advised.
                Whilst I expect him to beat Breazeale if he doesn't he could of had $100m but ends up with $5m.... That is career roulette right there.
                Turning down the offer he got only made sense if today they announced that Showtime was handing him a 100M contract so he has security. Instead he fighting a one off fight for anywhere between 2-5M with the promise that we will make it up to you on the backend IF we can land a big fight with Joshua later on. Arum has a good working relationship with Hearn and has been making fights recently. What if Joshua and Fury end up fighting? And even if they don't Joshua and Fury have guaranteed big money contracts they will get paid with or without Wilder. He's the one with no contract no guarantee and no big payday without those guys. Wilder is the one taking all the risks because Haymon doesn't want to send his guy to another network there is no other logical reason. They paying 3X more for the same fight and guaranteeing you Joshua next it's not a long term deal really only a 2 fight deal with a 3rd fight for a rematch.

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by KTFOKING
                  No, no it's not. A myth is continue to talk about 50M when that became irrelevant the day Joshua decided he wanted the fight in the UK...Which he had every right to ask for.
                  Do you mean offer I saw on wilder's twitter handle?

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                  • pillowfists98
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by bigdunny1
                    Wilder is the one taking all the risk. He showing loyalty to Haymon passing up on 2 networks willing to pay him more for the same damn fight then PBC. Honestly I thought the only way he stayed was because Showtime was going to announce they were matching the 100M offer DAZN gave him or giving him a Fury type long term deal. This is all about Haymon and Showtime not wanting Wilder fighting on another network and not about what's the best deal for Wilder. If it's about getting your fighter the best deal this is not the best deal.

                    Laughing at people trying to compare this to Manny not taking the first big offer to fight Floyd. The difference is Manny was already making huge money, already one of the highest paid fighters in history, already selling 1M PPVs, he was slightly paid less then Floyd who was the #1 highest paid fighter in history. Wilder hasn't banked that kind of money, he's not a PPV star. He is nowhere the highest paid in history or in today's boxing. Canelo, GGG, Joshua, Fury, Pacquiao all getting huge deals. Crawford getting paid more. Spence probably was paid more to fight Mikey then Wilder will be his next fight, Spencie if he fights Pacquiao next will likely get paid more then Wilder ever has. The gap between what Wilder is making and the top guys is massive. And Wilder ain't young he's 34 older then most of these guys and hasn't been paid yet and almost lost his last fight. Any loss would be catostrophic. He's also fighting in the most dangerous division because of the size of heavyweights and how hard they hit.
                    Haymon is really screwing Wilder here for his own interests. His responsibility as a manager should be to get Wilder the most money. However, as the head of PBC he also has a responsibility to Showtime to provide them with fights. There is a clear conflict of interest here.

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
                      How?

                      Joshua is getting paid $30m to fight Miller. Nobody offered more.

                      Deyonce just took potentially less than $10m to fight Breazeale when DAZN had $20m on the table for him.

                      Stop with your fanboy nonsense kid.
                      It'd be funny because of you.

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