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  • Ake-Dawg
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    #31
    Originally posted by Noelanthony
    Idiots actually believed Finkel . They agreed accepting 15 million flat fee on Social media and you believed they wanted to go through with the fight? Yes I believe Wilder would because he is a fighter but his business minded manager had absolutely no intention. He has been in huge fights and he would have been doing a client a disservice if he accepted but you are an idiot anyway so you bought the story. The fact is you believe what you want to believe. The funny thing is I never once believed Deontay was scared I even thought team Aj’s actions were apprehensive in some parts but I am for the very first time questioning Wilder.

    A fighter doesn’t say there are enough fights within the PBC to fight for another 2 years. What champion even thinks like that?
    Anthony Joshua, per his freeze you out statement to Wilder.

    I think we should all just calm down and wait until Wilder makes his announcement instead of getting into online battles because the loquacious on Eddie Hearn can't seem to deal with being sidelined by Skipper again. All we need to hear from him is, if Wilder signs, we are ready to work on Joshua's DAZN deal for the fights, but if he doesn't, we will go about our business in building AJ in the US with other opponents or seek other fights in the UK.

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    • Straightener
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      #32
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      Here we go again. Hearn saying he shouldn't talk, yet talking all the same. So now, no matter what Wilder's decision is, no matter what the reason behind the decision, AJ fans and Wilder haters have all the ammunition they need.

      If the deal is for $100M and includes Joshua fights AND allows him to walk away clean if Joshua doesn't agree to terms with DAZN for the fights by a certain date, by all means he should sign it if FOX or SHOW can't match it.
      No matter how much wilder turns down you will defend him

      When are you gonna see what’s staring you right in the face ??? Wilder doesn’t want the fight .

      Jesus Christ
      Last edited by Straightener; 03-18-2019, 06:13 AM.

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      • Noelanthony
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        #33
        Originally posted by bluemax
        What a lot of baloney!!! Sorry Hearn the public isn't buying it anymore. Joshua has fought carefully cherry picked opponents and even then only when his management controls every aspect of the fight to give Joshua all the opportunities to win. You first cherry pick the opposition and control this by offering small percentages of the purse to any real threat like Wilder, Ortiz, Fury ect. Then you pick the location, the ring size and even control the judging behind the scenes. You'd think that would be enough but even then you require a rematch clause just in case the cherry picked opponent clips Joshua on his suspect chin. Give it a rest!
        Wilder has a press conference scheduled tomorrow ,according to many of accounts to turn down a 100 million deal and on the eve of his conference this is what his publicist had to say on the matter

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        • Noelanthony
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          #34
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          Anthony Joshua, per his freeze you out statement to Wilder.

          I think we should all just calm down and wait until Wilder makes his announcement instead of getting into online battles because the loquacious on Eddie Hearn can't seem to deal with being sidelined by Skipper again. All we need to hear from him is, if Wilder signs, we are ready to work on Joshua's DAZN deal for the fights, but if he doesn't, we will go about our business in building AJ in the US with other opponents or seek other fights in the UK.
          What are you expecting to hear tomorrow out of curiosity?

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          • Reverb
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            #35
            Let's face it. Hearn is a blessing to forums. A can't fail hit every time he speaks.

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            • Ake-Dawg
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              #36
              Originally posted by Noelanthony
              This is similar to the 50 million that Americans have been singing about for 6 months. “ how can Joshua turn that sort of money down” ... “ He is a coward definitely” for me Wilder tuning down life changing money is more of a head scratch because Financially and commercially he is not on AJ level so he should grap this opportunity

              Now having said that if you live your life by a set of principles you may never want to do business with people you don’t respect. That’s on him. Maybe he doesn’t want to fight on Dazn or be tied down ? He fights Brezeale on Showtime makes 5/6 million and misses out on 15 million. That is his loss financially. It doesn’t come out of my pocket so who cares.

              Albeit he has to make the AJ fight next. That is the only way I will give him a pass. They can do the joint promotion PPV on showtime and free for Dazn subscribers. Watch the amount of subscribers Dazn will get. Deontay can still be loyal to showtime but show a willingness to make the fight.

              That Finkel is a weird character. Finally Hearn can not be blamed for negotiations being fruitless
              We have no clue what that deal looks like. Folks hear $100M and go crazy. Is it guaranteed? People went crazy over Fury's deal and didn't read the fine print that says he has to fight Wilder and Joshua to get the big money in the deal.

              Finkel definitely looks weird, but you can't knock any of his decisions in hindsight. Last year Wilder was getting dragged by a certain group of fans for not accepting $12.5M to fight Joshua, now if reports are true, he can get almost twice that to fight Breazeale.

              Listen, tomorrow if the deal is turned down it better come with clear concise and legitimate reasons behind it AND a way forward to make this dang fight where everybody makes their money.

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              • Adamsc151
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                #37
                After all the ****e they gave Joshua for turning down the phantom $50m with no contract, no public guarantee of funding; to turn down twice as much for a 3 fight deal - one of which being a knock-over job - is absolutely ludicrous. Especially when Wilder has told the world he is a free agent and the benefactor of the deal is public knowledge, so the money is guaranteed.
                They also got salty as hell with Fury when he signed a 5 fight deal with ESPN for $100m, yet they cant sign a deal worth the same amount over less fights with the possibility of being undisputed at the end?
                I don't think it's Wilder himself that's scared, but someone in his management team is terrified he'd lose and lose badly.

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                • Bronx2245
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Noelanthony
                  What are you expecting to hear tomorrow out of curiosity?
                  I'm expecting to hear that Wilder is signing a new deal with SHO/FOX that is somewhere near that $100 Million Dollar offer that DAZN made. If not, then I think Wilder's team is failing him! I understand loyalty, but at 33, you have to do what's best for you and yours! I don't like the deal if he can't fight Joshua this year, but if he can fight Joshua in 2019, right after Breazeale, he should've signed to DAZN. Anyway, he didn't need to sign with DAZN when they offered the $15 million flat-fee, so all Hearn has to do is sweeten the deal, make it 60/40 with the rematch clause, (if Wilder wins, then the fight is on SHO/FOX and in the U.S.) and I think it gets done this winter!

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                  • Noelanthony
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
                    We have no clue what that deal looks like. Folks hear $100M and go crazy. Is it guaranteed? People went crazy over Fury's deal and didn't read the fine print that says he has to fight Wilder and Joshua to get the big money in the deal.

                    Finkel definitely looks weird, but you can't knock any of his decisions in hindsight. Last year Wilder was getting dragged by a certain group of fans for not accepting $12.5M to fight Joshua, now if reports are true, he can get almost twice that to fight Breazeale.

                    Listen, tomorrow if the deal is turned down it better come with clear concise and legitimate reasons behind it AND a way forward to make this dang fight where everybody makes their money.
                    Agreed.....

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                    • Ake-Dawg
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Noelanthony
                      What are you expecting to hear tomorrow out of curiosity?
                      I have no freaking clue and I like it that way. I'm just sick of having to read through the this guy is scared bs from both sides. The only thing either guy is scared of is missing out on money they believe they should/could get.

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