Comments Thread For: Hearn: It's Frustrating, Done All We Can To Make Wilder-Joshua

[IMDAZED]

You just described an offer sheet, a term sheet, which was sent to Hearn. Which Hearn confirmed he received. Hearn admitted it was a great offer but they were turning it down because AJ owed it to his fans to stage the fight in the UK.. They negotiated the offer for over a month. How did Hearn know BTsports was involved? how did Hearn know where the original fight was going to happen, and the rematch, and the revenue split, and the PPV carrier? It's because it was all in the offer sheet. I mean you guys know so little of how boxing works, but not only that, your information is wrong. You're straight up lying. You are a liar. That's all there is to it.

"While Joshua was initially skeptical of the high offer, Hearn confirmed that it's legitimate and the money is there."

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-hearn-stand-firm-wilder-fight-uk--128489

"Anthony Joshua vs Deontay Wilder negotiations is heating up again as Eddie Hearn has confirmed Shelly Finkel has sent proof of funds for the $50 million offer to AJ."

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thaboxingvoiceradio/2018/05/03/finkel-sent-eddie-hearn-proof-of-fundsggg-vs-martirosyan-preview-more

And there are plenty more articles where that came from. Yeah AJ looked bad, everyone in and around boxing were calling Hearn and AJ out for turning down such a huge offer, so Hearn goes on damage control and begins to take back everything he previously said. So when was Hearn lying? When he confirmed he received proof of funds, and confirmed he received an offer sheet, and admitted he was turning down a great offer, and essentially leaving money on the table? Or was Hearn lying months later when he went on damage control and took all those things back? Ohhhh, I see which on you chose. Bye Felicia.

It’s strange how folks managed to forget everything that transpired—because Hearn told them to.

Interview after interview, he’s saying he got the answers he needed, that it was a good offer, and then ultimately that they couldn’t take it because they preferred to fight in the UK for less money.

When that didn’t fly, he just took it all back and his minions went along.

[bigjavi973]

Of couse you would ,we all know Wilder gets knocked out ina Joshua fight. None of wilders fans on here actually want to see him fight for a undisputed ,the end outcome is way to predictable. Wilder still has a chance against Fury but also doubtful he wins that to,i don't even think he defeats Breazeale and have him being knocked out late in that fight.

i dont do "what if" scenarios.....

again..... I'd rather see the fury rematch 1st but again thats just my opinion.

[Alan Smithee]

[QUOTE=Holler;19598231] Joshua has had half the fights and assembled a far superior resume.


Last 10 fights for each guy: Joshua: Povetkin(38 years old),Parker, Takam,Klitschko(41 years old),Molina,Breazeale,Martin,Whyte,Cornish,johnson .

Wilder: Fury,Ortiz,Stiverne,Washington,Arreola,Szpilka,Duh aupas,Molina,Stiverne,Gavern.

Where exactly is the far superior resume? Wilder over Joshua by knockout! BOMB SQUAD!

[Holler]

[QUOTE=Brettcappe;19600716]

Joshua has had half the fights and assembled a far superior resume.


Last 10 fights for each guy: Joshua: Povetkin(38 years old),Parker, Takam,Klitschko(41 years old),Molina,Breazeale,Martin,Whyte,Cornish,johnson .

Wilder: Fury,Ortiz,Stiverne,Washington,Arreola,Szpilka,Duh aupas,Molina,Stiverne,Gavern.

Where exactly is the far superior resume? Wilder over Joshua by knockout! BOMB SQUAD!

Hmm, if you wanted to be fair about this you should probably compare like for like. AJ defended his WBC international belt against Johnson in his 13th pro fight. So take a look at Wilder's stellar resume and go from 13 to 23 for a comparison:

1st Ethan Cox, wasn't ranked
2nd Shannon Gray, wasn't ranked
3rd Richard Greene Jr, wasn't ranked
4th Joseph Rabotte, ranked 393rd in the World
5th Charles Brown, wasn't ranked
6th Kelsey Arnold, wasn't ranked
7th Travis Allen, wasn't ranked
8th Jerry Vaughn, wasn't ranked
9th Ty Cobb, ranked 399th in the Heavyweight World
10th Alvaro Morales, wasn't ranked
11th Dustin Nichols, wasn't ranked
12th Shannon Caudle, wasn't ranked
13th Harold Sconiers, wasn't ranked
14th Dan Sheehan, wasn't ranked
15th DeAndrey Abron, wasn't ranked
16th Reggie Pena, wasn't ranked
17th Damon Reed, ranked 304th in the World
18th Dominique Alexander, wasn't ranked
19th Daniel Cota, ranked 489th in the World
20th David Long, wasn't ranked
21st Marlon Hayes, ranked 368th in the World
22nd Jesse Oltmanns, ranked 492th in the World
23rd Owen Beck, wasn't ranked
24th Kertson Manswell, ranked 310th in the World
25th Damon McCreary, ranked 357th in the World
26th Kelvin Price, wasn't ranked
27th Matthew Greer, ranked 325th in the World
28th Audley Harrison, ranked 136th in the World
29th Siarhei Liakhovich, ranked 43rd in the World
30th Nicolai Firtha, ranked 121nd in the World
31st Malik Scott, ranked 86th in the World
32nd Jason Gavern, ranked 194th in the World
33rd Bermane Stiverne, ranked 4th in the World
34th Eric Molina, ranked 37th in the World
35th Johann Duhaupas, ranked 34th in the World
36th Artur Szpilka, ranked 24th in the World
37th Chris Arreola, ranked 43rd in the World
38th Gerald Washington ranked 41st in the World
39th Bermane Stiverne “inactive for two years and UNRANKED at time of fight"
40th Luis Ortiz - ranked 6th (39 years old)

Or take a look at the independent rankings for each fighters recent opposition and highest ever ranked opponent:

https://premierboxingorganisation.com/heavyweight-200

But I get that this sort of stuff is taxing and involves pesky details. Maybe you'd like to take a leaf out of Wilder's playbook and scream BOMBZQUAD every time something comes up which highlights the massive gulf between what he says and what he actually does? Like he did in yesterdays presser?

[Kezzer]

[QUOTE=Brettcappe;19600716]

Joshua has had half the fights and assembled a far superior resume.


Last 10 fights for each guy: Joshua: Povetkin(38 years old),Parker, Takam,Klitschko(41 years old),Molina,Breazeale,Martin,Whyte,Cornish,johnson .

Wilder: Fury,Ortiz,Stiverne,Washington,Arreola,Szpilka,Duh aupas,Molina,Stiverne,Gavern.

Where exactly is the far superior resume? Wilder over Joshua by knockout! BOMB SQUAD!

Wtf? You actually seriously think losing with fury and beating Ortiz + 8 fighters outside top20 compares to Povetkin, Parker, Takam, Klitschko, Whyte,etc?

Of those I just mentioned 3 were classes as top3 by many at the point of fighting and another subsequently has raised to 4th in the world by most.

There is no comparison, I can’t even believe as a #ducksquad fanboy you would bring CV’s up as a debate.

[R_Walken]

If Hearn did all he could do to make the fight he’d be willing to make a Wilder /AJ fight with a rematch availabke to the platforms that’s offers the most , with no other BS strings

But from what I’ve read Wikder was offer from DAzn , there was no guarantee of a AJ fight happening if he signed on for the 3 fights. Absolute crazy $ But if not guaranteed AJ and with Dazn / Matchroom able to pick his next 2 opponets , might not have been Wilders best option because Matchroom is going to do everything in their power to have Wikder lose one of those fights so AJ doesn’t have to fight
Wilder

[Alan Smithee]

[QUOTE=Kezzer;19601259]

Wtf? You actually seriously think losing with fury and beating Ortiz + 8 fighters outside top20 compares to Povetkin, Parker, Takam, Klitschko, Whyte,etc?

Of those I just mentioned 3 were classes as top3 by many at the point of fighting and another subsequently has raised to 4th in the world by most.

There is no comparison, I can’t even believe as a #ducksquad fanboy you would bring CV’s up as a debate.

When wilder knocks Joshua out what excuse will be used? Although if they do fight Joshua will probably already have a loss on his record.

[Alan Smithee]

[QUOTE=Holler;19601250]

Hmm, if you wanted to be fair about this you should probably compare like for like. AJ defended his WBC international belt against Johnson in his 13th pro fight. So take a look at Wilder's stellar resume and go from 13 to 23 for a comparison:

1st Ethan Cox, wasn't ranked
2nd Shannon Gray, wasn't ranked
3rd Richard Greene Jr, wasn't ranked
4th Joseph Rabotte, ranked 393rd in the World
5th Charles Brown, wasn't ranked
6th Kelsey Arnold, wasn't ranked
7th Travis Allen, wasn't ranked
8th Jerry Vaughn, wasn't ranked
9th Ty Cobb, ranked 399th in the Heavyweight World
10th Alvaro Morales, wasn't ranked
11th Dustin Nichols, wasn't ranked
12th Shannon Caudle, wasn't ranked
13th Harold Sconiers, wasn't ranked
14th Dan Sheehan, wasn't ranked
15th DeAndrey Abron, wasn't ranked
16th Reggie Pena, wasn't ranked
17th Damon Reed, ranked 304th in the World
18th Dominique Alexander, wasn't ranked
19th Daniel Cota, ranked 489th in the World
20th David Long, wasn't ranked
21st Marlon Hayes, ranked 368th in the World
22nd Jesse Oltmanns, ranked 492th in the World
23rd Owen Beck, wasn't ranked
24th Kertson Manswell, ranked 310th in the World
25th Damon McCreary, ranked 357th in the World
26th Kelvin Price, wasn't ranked
27th Matthew Greer, ranked 325th in the World
28th Audley Harrison, ranked 136th in the World
29th Siarhei Liakhovich, ranked 43rd in the World
30th Nicolai Firtha, ranked 121nd in the World
31st Malik Scott, ranked 86th in the World
32nd Jason Gavern, ranked 194th in the World
33rd Bermane Stiverne, ranked 4th in the World
34th Eric Molina, ranked 37th in the World
35th Johann Duhaupas, ranked 34th in the World
36th Artur Szpilka, ranked 24th in the World
37th Chris Arreola, ranked 43rd in the World
38th Gerald Washington ranked 41st in the World
39th Bermane Stiverne “inactive for two years and UNRANKED at time of fight"
40th Luis Ortiz - ranked 6th (39 years old)

Or take a look at the independent rankings for each fighters recent opposition and highest ever ranked opponent:

https://premierboxingorganisation.com/heavyweight-200

But I get that this sort of stuff is taxing and involves pesky details. Maybe you'd like to take a leaf out of Wilder's playbook and scream BOMBZQUAD every time something comes up which highlights the massive gulf between what he says and what he actually does? Like he did in yesterdays presser?

Massive gulf? I give him credit for staying the course. Wilder and Joshua will eventually fight if A.J really wants it.

[Kezzer]

[QUOTE=Brettcappe;19601858]

When wilder knocks Joshua out what excuse will be used? Although if they do fight Joshua will probably already have a loss on his record.

There is/would be no excuses if they fought and a single champion is the result. That works both ways and hence why we don’t want wilder to duck any longer.

[Holler]

But from what I’ve read Wikder was offer from DAzn , there was no guarantee of a AJ fight happening if he signed on for the 3 fights. Absolute crazy $ But if not guaranteed AJ and with Dazn / Matchroom able to pick his next 2 opponets , might not have been Wilders best option because Matchroom is going to do everything in their power to have Wikder lose one of those fights so AJ doesn’t have to fight
Wilder

Forget Matchroom, this was DAZN's money. Do you think, for even one second, that DAZN would've offered the kind of money that's been reported for any opponent other than Joshua? Seriously?