Comments Thread For: Errol Spence - Not Just Bigger But Also Better

[factsarenice]

Nice inquest going on.

Too bad the "hype job" Spence did not lose so lets dump on Mikey!!

Now everyone always knew he was going to lose any way AFTER the fight.

This is why i love these forums.

The humor.

Carry on with the inquest. You will get over yourself in time.

Spence is the new sheriff in town. Get used to it.

Spence has lightweight on lock down.

[Sweet Scions]

That's cause Mikey is durable and has a chin. Not an easy guy to KO. Mikey proved that night he can dish punishment

Mikey carried no reputation for a superhuman chin going into this fight, nor was there a precedent for such, probably on account of *not having one* and having previously been dropped at super featherweight by Roman Martinez, who we can safely assume to be less powerful than "monster" Errol. That chin is average at best, idiotic "mellon head" quips be damned. A clearly still compromised Kell Brook that GGG battered to hell inside 6 took Spence 11 rounds of intensive labor. These are the two guys with a pulse Spence has now faced, and he's been less than convincing in the power dept against both. Again, it's abundantly clear he was going for the kill saturday, every bit as much as with Brook. You throw *that* volume of punches, and are somehow not going for the KO? Now I've heard everything. It's easy to build a "power" narrative against an illustrious line up of welter uber drivers of "questionable" chin.

This is where the super fanboys accuse me of "hating" and attempting to discredit Spence at any cost, even though I've only been addressing this one aspect of him. He has more or less *perfect* fundamentals (equal or superior to Garcia's), great speed, and good if not great defense that will almost assuredly only improve from here. But power? Dorry, still not sold on that bill of goods. Time is on his side though, and maybe the actual power will catch up to the rep.

[indelible]

Mikey carried no reputation for a superhuman chin going into this fight, nor was there a precedent for such, probably on account of *not having one* and having previously been dropped at super featherweight by Roman Martinez, who we can safely assume to be less powerful than "monster" Errol. That chin is average at best, idiotic "mellon head" quips be damned. A clearly still compromised Kell Brook that GGG battered to hell inside 6 took Spence 11 rounds of intensive labor. These are the two guys with a pulse Spence has now faced, and he's been less than convincing in the power dept against both. Again, it's abundantly clear he was going for the kill saturday, every bit as much as with Brook. You throw *that* volume of punches, and are somehow not going for the KO? Now I've heard everything. It's easy to build a "power" narrative against an illustrious line up of welter uber drivers of "questionable" chin.

This is where the super fanboys accuse me of "hating" and attempting to discredit Spence at any cost, even though I've only been addressing this one aspect of him. He has more or less *perfect* fundamentals (equal or superior to Garcia's), great speed, and good if not great defense that will almost assuredly only improve from here. But power? Dorry, still not sold on that bill of goods. Time is on his side though, and maybe the actual power will catch up to the rep.

Since he and Crawford are in the top 10 of their division would you consider Crawford having power cause Crawford is not the kind of fighter that goes straight for the KO. He is a technical fighter that dissects his opponents before breaking them down. Even he got a lot of criticism for not being able to KO early a dude fighting with one leg. Maybe Spence didn't want to go for a KO since he wanted to prove to the audience other skills he has in him. Why do you think the other welterweights not interested in fighting him

[Sweet Scions]

Since he and Crawford are in the top 10 of their division would you consider Crawford having power cause Crawford is not the kind of fighter that goes straight for the KO. He is a technical fighter that dissects his opponents before breaking them down. Even he got a lot of criticism for not being able to KO early a dude fighting with one leg. Maybe Spence didn't want to go for a KO since he wanted to prove to the audience other skills he has in him. Why do you think the other welterweights not interested in fighting him

That is a good assessment of Crawford that I agree with. And to that end no, I don't regard Crawford as especially powerful, but I also don't see his supposed power talked up the way I do Spence's, and I've only felt compelled to comment on Spence's power based on the disparity between what I hear/read and what I actually see in the ring. I saw different things in Crawford-Benavidez than I did on saturday. Whereas that was overtly a methodical clinic, I saw a seek and destroy Spence against Garcia from basically the midpoint onward that just wasn't sealing that deal, be it from insufficient power, Mikey blocking the very worst shots or some combination thereof. Yes Garcia fully or partially blocked a tremendous amount of shots, but Spence also caught him with enough clean shots to head and body that I assumed he'd succumb to attrition if the power was there.

My main takeaway from Crawford-Benavidez is how overly cautious I felt Crawford was pretty much right up until the last two or so rounds. It struck me as timid even by clinic standards...I would have welcomed way more of what I saw in 11-12, and way earlier. So in some ways, I felt the flack he got for that performance was well deserved. It's funny in that what I saw from him there struck me as the level of caution I'd expect from him up against Spence (justifiably), but I was seeing it against someone who arguably isn't fit to carry Spence's gym towel. In contrast there was no such timidness from Spence - I saw an insane work rate and output that told me he was out for Garcia's head as much as any previous opponent.

All that said, wariness toward Spence within the division is very justified, overrated power or not. He has enough in his arsenal to have a healthy chance of taking away anyone else's 0, be it by KO or just outboxing. Weight bully or not, power or not, he is formidable at welter. For the time being, Terence just needs to focus on not sleeping on Amir, who may have more left in the tank than his last couple outings may suggest...

[slimPickings]

Spence has lightweight on lock down.

Call him out, you will get you wish and some more!

"I see something" has now been lost in the mix!!

[Dan Gleessac]

Do you even know that PAC fights at welterweight? Is is this a hurt fan talking? Beat it kid

Yes I am aware he fights at welterweight.
I'm also aware that he's probably the smallest welterweight available and years past his best so beating him would not advance Spence much in many fans eyes.
And yes I'm a hurt fan of Spence. I think he's top 10 pfp and should be aiming higher.
It's a shame people like you have to ruin forums like this with your quickfire toxic replies and inability to have an adult conversation/debate.

[Masterclass775]

How did that logic work out for Robert Easter? Go sit down and think again before you try to sound smart. SMH

You telling me Easter and Spence on the same level? Gtfoh...

[Beercules]

Got his ass handed to him for 12 rounds