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  • NC Uppercut
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    #11
    No current welters have beaten the man that beat the man, per se. It has to be established again. My point of view. Unless something funny happens

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      #12
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Vacant.

      Pacquaio has never been Lineal at 147.
      Officially he has been, him vs Bradley was for the vacant lineal title.

      I personally never considered the winner lineal champ myself but it is what it is

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        #13
        Originally posted by NC Uppercut
        No current welters have beaten the man that beat the man, per se. It has to be established again. My point of view. Unless something funny happens
        I agree, Crawford vs Spence is the fight to decide who is the man at 147

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          #14
          Vacant since Pacquiao's "retirement" in 2016.


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          • IronDanHamza
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            #15
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            Officially he has been, him vs Bradley was for the vacant lineal title.

            I personally never considered the winner lineal champ myself but it is what it is
            We're back at it already

            It's a tough one for me because it's so subjective isn't it when it's vacant.

            I don't see how Pacquaio can be Lineal when he beat Bradley he was coming off a loss and a draw.

            The new lineage has to be started when the universal #1 and #2 fight right? Can't see how Bradley was the universal #2. The divison was wide open.

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              #16
              Crawford should be. Pacquiao was lineal by beating Bradley and then Horn beat Pac.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Chrismart
                I think Manny was the last lineal. His retirement was only brief (7 months between fights), but official enough for the lineal to become vacant again.

                yet Wilder fangirls, pbc/haymon/showtime kept claiming Fury was STILL lineal champ after a 2.5 year retirement 🤦*♂️

                If Spence and Crawford are the consensus 1 and 2, it's probably going to be a while before we get a WW lineal.
                I can agree with that

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  We're back at it already

                  It's a tough one for me because it's so subjective isn't it when it's vacant.

                  I don't see how Pacquaio can be Lineal when he beat Bradley he was coming off a loss and a draw.

                  The new lineage has to be started when the universal #1 and #2 fight right? Can't see how Bradley was the universal #2. The divison was wide open.
                  We actually agree here😂

                  I didn’t consider Bradley the #2 either but for whatever reason the powers that be did.

                  I wouldn’t consider Pac a legit lineal 147 champ either. But “officially” he was.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
                    We actually agree here😂

                    I didn’t consider Bradley the #2 either but for whatever reason the powers that be did.

                    I wouldn’t consider Pac a legit lineal 147 champ either. But “officially” he was.
                    I'd still say he wasn't despite CyberBoxingZone putting it in their books.

                    Similar to when Floyd beat Mosley in 2010. Alot of divided opinion on whether or not that was for the Lineage.

                    Either way though the Lineage just gets weaker and weaker doesn't it.

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                      #20
                      There's 3 undefeated champs at welterweight. Whoever unifies the belts and becomes the undisputed champ will be the lineal.

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