Comments Thread For: Arum: Whether or Not DAZN Moves The Needle is Questionable

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  • bigdunny1
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    #21
    Originally posted by DuckAdonis
    DAZN- World Champions: 21
    1.Anthony Joshua
    2.Oleksandr Usyk
    3.Dmitry Bivol
    4.Callum Smith
    5.Canelo Alvarez
    6.Demetrius Andrade
    7.Daniel Jacobs
    8.Jamie Munguia
    9.Maurice Hooker
    10.Ivan Baranchyk (WBSS)
    11.Kyril Relikh (WBSS)
    12.Tevin Farmer
    13.Rey Vargas
    14.Daniel Roman
    15.TJ Doheny
    16.Nonito Donaire (WBSS)
    17.Rungvisai
    18.Yafai
    19.Charlie Edwards
    20.Ken Shiro (WBSS affiliated)
    21.Angel Acosta
    I know Tete is with Warren but he fights on DAZN.
    Emmanuel Rodriguez is on DAZN but he also fought on PBC so not sure

    PBC/Showtime/Fox- World champs: 12
    1.Deontay Wilder
    2.Caleb Plant
    3.Anthony Dirrell
    4.Jarrett Hurd
    5.Tony Harrison
    6.Keith Thurman
    7.Errol Spence
    8.Shawn Porter
    9.Mikey Garcia
    10.Gervonta Davis
    11.Gary Russel Jr
    12.Leo Santa Cruz
    Kriel- fought 1 time on Showtime as the opponent, so I doubt he is actually with them
    Oubaali- fought 1 time on Showtime, idk if he is with them
    Emmanuel Rodriguez- if he is still with PBC idk, he fights on DAZN rn

    Top Rank/ESPN- World Champions: 14
    1.Sergey Kovalev
    2.Artur Beterbiev
    3.Oleksandr Gvozdyk
    4.Gilberto Ramirez
    5.Terence Crawford
    6.Jose Ramirez
    7.Vasyl Lomachenko
    8.Richard Commey
    9.Miguel Berchelt
    10.Masayuki Ito
    11.Josh Warrington
    12.Oscar Valdez
    13.Emmanuel Navarrete
    14.Jerwin Ancajas
    Zolani Tete- if he is still with Frank Warren.
    DAZN in just about 5 months since they launched have signed the top stars and almost as many world champs as ESPN and PBC combined lol They might sign Wilder as well and have hands down the best upcoming schedule of fights then any other network

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    • yammy25
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      #22
      Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
      That card this weekend is horrible. Carroll is coming off a draw & Rosado/Sulecki is a WBO eliminator.bFarmer is getting paid good money to fight bums because his name has been linked to Tanks's. Why the hell would Ellerbee allow Tank to go fight on a platform that has less subscribers than the ratings he got for his fight on Showtime, which were not good.
      maybe because as a management and /or promotional team you have a duty to your client to make them as much money as possible. If the offers he has received from hearn or dazn etc are indeed much more than prior, and are for one-off fights... then he should be letting tank see them. tank has admitted he hasnt even seen the offers provided.

      and out of my whole comment that was all you could pick out. for shame.

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      • asgarth
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        #23
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        That card this weekend is horrible. Carroll is coming off a draw & Rosado/Sulecki is a WBO eliminator.bFarmer is getting paid good money to fight bums because his name has been linked to Tanks's. Why the hell would Ellerbee allow Tank to go fight on a platform that has less subscribers than the ratings he got for his fight on Showtime, which were not good.
        because of the money offered?

        What do the ratings have to do with anything.
        Joshua, Canelo, GGG and other top fighters signed with DAZN instead of Showtime or ESPN.

        Are all these fighters badly managed or are they going where the most money is, which is, if they are acting out of self-interest, the most reasonable thing to do.

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        • bigdunny1
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          #24
          Originally posted by asgarth
          I dont think that most people wont agree with you on that opinion. Everyone knows about DAZN/Hearn's problems of singing the more popular US fighters, but the pieces are starting to come together.

          Canelo Vs Jacobs is a legit fight. One P4P guy, the other Top5 in his division.

          Rungvisai Vs Estrada II is also between the number #1 and #2 in their division. Rungvisai also being a p4p guy.

          Im expecting Usyk to fight a legit opponent in his next fight.

          GGG is supposed to fight a tune up fight unfortunately, but DAZN has canelo, andrade, jacobs and GGG at middleweight. No way that he isnt facing one of them in the second quarter of the year. If he doesnt want to fight the best middleweights, he could have signed with Toprank or PBC.

          WBSS seminfinals are awesome and If the organizers are not facing any challenges again, we will also get the finals this year.

          Other than that, I believe DAZN has the most top10 Vs top10 fighters scheduled at the moment in 2019.

          bivol vs smith
          rungvisai vs estrada
          Roman vs doheny
          prograis vs relikh
          donaire vs tete
          alvarez vs jacobs
          taylor vs baranchyk
          inoue vs rodriguez
          joshua vs miller
          briedis vs glowacki
          dorticos vs tabiti

          and the schedule is only set until mid of june.

          Also, Gassiev is rumored to sign with DAZN. I am still skeptic, but if DAZN is able to sign Wilder, they will have a pretty decent heavyweight lineup:

          Joshua, Wilder, Usyk, Hrgovic, Miller, Chisora and Povetkin and Kuzmin are also featured on DAZN.
          exactly. This shyt just launched 5 months ago lol No shyt their first couple cards weren't the best fights ever. Hearn had problems signing fighters so that's why you got crap cards to start on DAZN. They had to get the fighters first. Now they have them and we are seeing big fights coming together and being made. Who has better fights booked and on the calendar right now then DAZN? The answer is no one.

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          • SinderellaMan
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            #25
            Sorry Bob but for $10 a month with decent main events & classics from the vault, I'm not griping.
            Give it a year or 2 and the needle will be moving just fine.

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            • Jubei
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              #26
              Dazn is the new king
              ESPN is the prince
              PBC are the jesters

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              • mapleleaf27
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                #27
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                But when Haymon was doing it we were told he was ruining the sport. Hmmm
                I see it different, PBC is great, I don't miss anything , FS1 , shobox, fox/showtime...but maybe BA felt when you are paying for the time it is cheapening the 'product' as opposed to the networks paying for the fights,as he was facing shrinking budgets at hbo at that time...hey I am glad Fox bought in, but AH paid them all, nbc-espn-spike-cbs-, it's good PBC landed one, I hope FOX re-ups for another 10 years.

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                • DJrabit
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  But when Haymon was doing it we were told he was ruining the sport. Hmmm
                  Because fighters were getting paid good money to fight bums and avoid fights.

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                  • DJrabit
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Curt Henning
                    al "gaymon" put porter/Thurman/danny all in with each other...he also put danny in with lucas when lucas was considered as dangerous as anyone in or near the weight class lol

                    hes about to put two top 10p4p rated, unbeaten, guys of his against each other on ppv

                    he put lara and hurd in with each other....wed prob have jermell/hurd on the horizon if jermell didn't lose

                    guy put jack and Stevenson up against each other...had Stevenson defending on showtime against gvozdyk

                    heres what wilders last 3 fights would have looked like if fury didn't shat himself watching the replay of the 12 round over and over....Ortiz, fury and fury....

                    you are a loser...straight up

                    meanwhile arum is about to pay khan 5 mil so Crawford has an actual name people know....who else has Crawford been fighting for 3-3.5 mil? lol

                    espn is gonna pay fury to fight some C level scrub on espn+...lol

                    and youre out here talking trash on AL? hahaha...go suicide yourself...this sport and forum doesn't need trash like you
                    Garcia vs Matthes was under Golden Boy.

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                    • sicko
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                      #30
                      DAZN Subs and Viewership is not their YET, John Skipper basically admits that during the GGG Press Conference Yesterday. He said on a scale of 1-10 it is at a 3-4 RIGHT NOW when it comes to Subscribers/Viewership IN AMERICAN

                      DAZN is new to this Market which is a very competitive and RICH Market so yeah it will be a struggle for DAZN to get Subscription and Viewership Up here in the US.

                      HOWEVER, as he kept saying DAZN is GLOBAL so just because they don't do as well in the US doesn't mean it will fail. He also talked about the MACHINE that is ESPN and how no one not even DAZN will ever be able to compete with that basically which is true.
                      Last edited by sicko; 03-12-2019, 02:44 PM.

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