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  • killakali
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    #41
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Jacobs got the Canelo fight as the first bout of a three-fight deal, with a win getting him two Canelo paydays and his freedom by the end of 2019, lol. And Haymon still gets his piece for working for Jacobs, lol.

    Thought you were smarter than that.

    Wilder is starting his PPV run early, but Wilder-TBA would've been on PPV from the next fight on.
    haymon is taking his small percent off Jacobs. Connolly the manager who orchestrated the deal is getting the big piece while haymon gets a life for doing nothing. Never said he didn’t get anything. Just that Haymon hasn’t had any control since Jacobs went to Matchroom. Haymon trued ti stop him the first time and also nueva when he resigned over 3 years minimum of Jacobs prime will be didn’t away from pbc.

    Jacobs smartest move was leaving pbc. Charlo should do the same.

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    • champion4ever
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      #42
      Originally posted by Deus
      You are correct in a way; it is Showtime and Fox that are hurting because of these deals because it means that they have a smaller roster to put on shows with...

      BUT don't forget these are PBC shows organised by Al Haymon and Showtime / Fox have paid a lot of money to Haymon for the privilege of having PBC events on their networks... if Haymon then has less stars to play with then the value of his shows diminish and when it comes to renegotiating a deal with Showtime / Fox for his PBC shows it is Haymon that is going to take a hit because his shows will not be worth as much; subsequently he'll get less money for his PBC.
      That was not only well said but I wholeheartedly agree with you!

      If the platforms are not getting the best shows and fighters for their money, then they have the option of not resigning with the PBC again. However I am more than confident that Wilder will be back at Showtime much sooner than later.

      As a matter of fact, I believe his next fight against Dominic Breazeale will air on Showtime's Pay Per View Boxing because I think DAZN wants to save money by passing on that one. It's the Wilder/Joshua fight they want.

      Moreover, it's only a two fight deal which means that Wilder was not looking to bolt from Showtime permanently. He just wanted to become the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world and then he is back home where he belongs on the PBC.

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      • Ray*
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        #43
        Originally posted by killakali
        lmaaaooooo trying to change what you said son? U said no fighter left pbc for Matchroom or top rank. Now u flip flop. Here’s your quote:

        ***Moreover, Matchroom Sport has an exclusive contract with SkySports too or haven't you forgotten that fact as well. DAZN is not Al Haymon's competitor; However, Matchroom Sport, Top Rank Boxing and Golden Boy Promotions are and none of those rivals or competitors have stolen any of Haymon's talent from the PBC and never will. ****


        That whole paragraph is filled with lies. First off DAZN is haymons comeptitor. Haymon is loyal to showtime and fox. That’s it. That’s why he begged Danny Jacobs to come back and not resign with Matchroom.

        That’s why he’a begging wilder after matching top ranks offer to go to espn to not go to DAZN.

        Haymon needs these fighters for good ratings at fox and showtime on his pbc promotions.

        That’s why Haymon didn’t go to DAZN for wilder or Jacobs. He wanted them to stay with him.

        Jacobs manager worked the deal for Jacobs just like wilders manager is negotiating for him.

        Haymon is trying to convince them not to leave.

        And how ignorant of you to say Jamal Herring, Artur Beterbiev and Eleider Alvarez weren’t ever pbc fighters when everyone knows they were and they fought on pbc shows and had contracts with Haymon lmaaaaoooooo
        The way some of these people defend PBC/Haymon you would think they are being paid by them. Who gives a toss about these networks? I mean i thought Haymon is an adviser not a promoter?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Ray*
          The way some of these people defend PBC/Haymon you would think they are being paid by them. Who gives a toss about these networks? I mean i thought Haymon is an adviser not a promoter?
          They forget he’s basically doing both jobs. Advisor and promoter. They say they are free but most aren’t and only fight pbc guys. But yes these dudes act like they are getting a cut from uncle al

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            #45
            Let's go Adam, make some noise!

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              #46
              Originally posted by Pigeons
              Al Haymon is getting raided. I don't think he predicted the fall of HBO was going to coincide with an influx of money in this sport. Now Top Rank/ESPN and DAZN have no problem losing a bunch of money. How will Al counter this? All his guys are free agents.
              This affects Al how? Dude getting paid regardless..

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                #47
                Originally posted by j.razor
                This affects Al how? Dude getting paid regardless..

                Al's been rich. The thing that makes rich people stay that way is that they never stop, they always want more. Al wants more. He wants to run boxing. PBC is supposed to be boxing's UFC. Can't accomplish that by losing fighters to your competitors who have their own visions of running boxing.

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                • Scipio2009
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by killakali
                  Checkbhis tweets or his story where he says Haymon matched top ranks 12.5 mil offer. It’s right there.
                  Lol, that's what I thought. No source, as usual

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by killakali
                    haymon wasn’t going to put Breazeale on ppv and wasn’t going to pay him 12.5 mil either. That’s why wilder is saying thank you Bob Arum!
                    Deontay Wilder made an alleged $14m on the Fury PPV, and was set to see at least $17.5m (with a likely figure topping $20m) on the Fury2 PPV.

                    Bob Arum but in, causes the $17.5m deal to fall out, instead bids up the Breazeale fight to $12.5m (rather than a final general audience fight before the move to PPV) forcing the fight to stay PPV, and Wilder will likely close out 2019 with a PPV for Ortiz2 or the Joshua fight.

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                    • Scipio2009
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by killakali
                      haymon wasn’t going to put Breazeale on ppv and wasn’t going to pay him 12.5 mil either. That’s why wilder is saying thank you Bob Arum!
                      Also funny how you completely ignored the Daniel Jacobs piece of the puzzle.

                      Signs for three fights, gets Alvarez in fight 1, he wins and he will get Alvarez in fight 2, and there's no way in hell that Hearn is putting him in their with Andrade for fight 3, lol

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