Matchmaking / By Age 23: Floyd vs Canelo resumes

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  • Citizen Koba
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    #31
    Originally posted by Bjl12
    For comparison:

    At age 23:

    GGG - fighting little boys in amateurs...still not pro, needed more practice

    You really that ignorant about the amateur game or just trolling on dudes? You can say the same thing about Usyk, Loma, Lara, Rigo... hell, Spence didn't turn pro til he was 22 and he doesn't even come from a place where the amateurs were arguably more respected than the pros.

    These dudes didn't strive for amateur greatness to somehow prepare themselves for the 'real thing' but absolutely for it's own sake... and honestly you can make a very strong case that medaling at the Olympics or the Worlds is a greater - and certainly more unique - accomplishment than getting your hands on one of the trinkets that the acronym dudes hand out like candy.

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    • R_Walken
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      #32
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      Canelo isn’t and will never be in the same class as Mayweather / If you have any doubts re watch their fight

      If you really want to compare what they accomplished by age 23 /24 consider the whole scope of it / It’s more
      Then just the names

      Mayweather fought Genaro he had 1 L and was a current
      Strap holder with Multiple Defences

      Corralles Was a Undefeated Prime P4P Fighter

      Canelo is the anointed Golden Child because of the $ / Exposure he brought he was able to get Known fighters into the ring at a time they were almost completely irrelevant except for their name . Canelos Team have Implemented a strategy of fighting Known fighters on the end of their careers who had almost nothing Left and had
      Suffered Multiple Ls in their recent fights and their name represented more then their place in the sport

      Moseley-40+ hadnt won in his last 3

      Baldomir-40 has lost 3/5 only Ws were against nobodies

      Cintron - List 2/3

      N’Dou - 39 was 2-2-1 last 5 /2 wins against no hopers

      It’s not just the names you fight / It’s more important when you fight them ( Age / Recent Record )

      Canelos best names on his Resume are all over 35 (Moseley/Mayweather/Golovkin/ Cotto ) and no where near the fighters they were or near their peak.

      That’s why I wouldn’t be suprised if it’s Kovalev in September he checks all the boxes for Canelos team when fighting future HOFers

      Over 35
      3-3 in his last 6 fights
      Has Tapped out / KO in 2 Of those Ls
      On the slide / Not the same fighter he was

      Name still holds value

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      • moltres.
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        #33
        canelo was only 23, asking a 23 year old to lose 2 pounds aint that bad.

        not sure how long after he outgrew 154, but the dude was 23.

        draining a 36yo kova would be awful, the body works differently with age.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Luilun
          Dumb Floydtards think that draining you 2 pounds makes no difference , Thats how I know these low IQ boxing people have never box trust me 1 pound can break you happen to me when I was an amateur I fought weight drain and had no legs so my next fight I move up to the next weight class even though i was out weighed by 3 to 4 pounds just couldn't make 112 anymore so I went to 119 even though I fought at about 115 in tournaments
          Interesting post. If this is correct then Manny’s wins over morales #1, Margs, odh, and cotto all should be devalued because of the cw or because morales was coming down from 135.

          Or is it only fighters that fight Floyd are drained when the fight is at a cw?

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #35
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Interesting post. If this is correct then Manny’s wins over morales #1, Margs, odh, and cotto all should be devalued because of the cw or because morales was coming down from 135.

            Or is it only fighters that fight Floyd are drained when the fight is at a cw?
            Yes but circumstantial facts such as Floyd fought DLH, and Cotto at the full 154... why didn't Floyd dare at the full 154 for Canelo? Remember Dawson had to cut 9lbs the day of the weigh in for Andre Ward at 168? Canelo hadn't fought at Middleweight or above 154 when he fought FLoyd

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              #36
              Originally posted by Greedo's Lawyer
              Yes but circumstantial facts such as Floyd fought DLH, and Cotto at the full 154... why didn't Floyd dare at the full 154 for Canelo? Remember Dawson had to cut 9lbs the day of the weigh in for Andre Ward at 168? Canelo hadn't fought at Middleweight or above 154 when he fought FLoyd
              Canelo people ****ed up and said they willing to meet him at CW someone can post the video for you

              This is not the same as Chad Dawson going down a weight class don't be ******

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              • Thuglife Nelo
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                #37
                Too bad Andrade fight didn’t happen. Bring Kovalev

                WAR CANELO
                WAR KRUSHER

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by R_Walken
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                  Canelo isn’t and will never be in the same class as Mayweather /
                  Mayweather didn’t fight anyone like Canelo at age 23.

                  130-154 : 24lbs differential

                  140-175+?: and that’s all she wrote

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by I'm Widdit!
                    Yes but circumstantial facts such as Floyd fought DLH, and Cotto at the full 154... why didn't Floyd dare at the full 154 for Canelo? Remember Dawson had to cut 9lbs the day of the weigh in for Andre Ward at 168? Canelo hadn't fought at Middleweight or above 154 when he fought FLoyd
                    Originally posted by I'm Widdit!
                    Mayweather didn’t fight anyone like Canelo at age 23.

                    130-154 : 24lbs differential

                    140-175+?: and that’s all she wrote
                    You Realize are Oscar got to choose the Weight, Right Mayweather has no say

                    Cotto got 154 because Mayweather respected him

                    And Finally Canelo publicly Offered to go to 152 to make the fight and guess what Mayweather took him up on it.


                    I don’t even get what point you had with your Tim sh.it Response to me

                    Such a Dumpster Baby

                    Are You trying to say Canelos Greater because he started his Pro career at 140 as a 15 year old and will fight Kovalev at 175 that he’s somehow greater then Mayweather because he Gained more Weight because started as a 15 year old

                    Really thats your Argument / Maybe the Dumbest I’ve read in a long Time cong**** man

                    How about this Argument

                    Canelo has Needed the Help from Judges Multiple Times to get Ws

                    Canelos Been Busted For PEDs


                    When Mayweather fought HOF or Notable Opponets he was almost always the smaller fighter and they were from Roughly the same era , He didn’t have to wait until he was Prime and they were Physically on the decline

                    When Mayweather / Canelo Fought , Most thought Mayweather made Canelo look like a Amateur and he didn’t to be in the the same ring and most thought Canelo got shut out



                    And That’s all She Wrote

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by R_Walken
                      You Realize are Oscar got to choose the Weight, Right Mayweather has no say

                      Cotto got 154 because Mayweather respected him
                      Lol. What a dweeb. You didn’t even get the point. Read what I wrote 10 more times.

                      Here’s the context for my post...

                      Floyd didn’t dare Lineal or his 6 weight division accomplishment in facing Cotto or Canelo TWICE! Floyd could’ve easily said 155 for any of these guys, Cotto and Canelo would taken those fights in a heartbeat.

                      Truth is Cotto gained more muscle mass after Martinez.

                      If Cotto or Canelo were “easy” for Floyd, then it’s a no brainer that Floyd would’ve retired a 6 Division Champ and the Lineals with either the Mexican or the Puerto Rican.

                      For you to say “Floyd did what Oscar...” etc has nothin to do with Cotto or Canelo at 155+

                      Floyd didn’t dare 1lb with Cotto because Miguel was bigger. Canelo was/is bigger than 152 and refreshed at 155 at the time.

                      And that’s All she really wrote!
                      Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 09-08-2019, 07:37 AM.

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