Matchmaking / By Age 23: Floyd vs Canelo resumes

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    Mayweather vs Canelo was at 152/153? And there was no hydration clause.

    Even at 154, it would of been the same result.

    For me that fight was the last of Mayweathers great performances.

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    • Redd Foxx
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      #12
      Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
      Because matchmaking is talked about. If Canelo wasn’t a threat given who he had fought Floyd would’ve Canelo at the full 154 since he did with Cotto and De La Hoya. Canelo had trouble making 154 since Cintron-Lopez. Trout’s bout was at a 153.5 limit. Floyd then took it even further to 152. Floyd didn’t call out Canelo’s 154 WBC since 2011-2013, and then even after Cotto he went to fight Guerrero at 147...a former Featherweight, again, to then “defend” his 154 Super WBA and unify with Caneo at 152. Floyd was shook.

      Even more, when you do 2.2 million PPV with Canelo, and claim to be the money man, yet didn’t Challenge Canelo even at 155 when the Mexican took Cotto’s Middleweight strap. So from 2013-2015 Floyd didn’t want another run with Canelo. Less than 2 years. If Canelo was so easy, Floyd would’ve obliged for an even bigger PPV and a 6 Division Champion.
      It was obvious that this thread was created with ulterior motives and you proved it in ^this post.

      Mayweather was the better fighter and will have the greater legacy. Just get over it. I'm not even a Mayweather fan. But, I can't standing all this fanboy/hater nonsense that goes on around here.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #13
        Originally posted by Luilun
        Dumb Floydtards think that draining you 2 pounds makes no difference , Thats how I know these low IQ boxing people have never box trust me 1 pound can break you happen to me when I was an amateur I fought weight drain and had no legs so my next fight I move up to the next weight class even though i was out weighed by 3 to 4 pounds just couldn't make 112 anymore so I went to 119 even though I fought at about 115 in tournaments
        Floyd beat Canelo in 2013, and in less than 2 years when Canelo took Cotto’s Middleweight strap at 155, Mayweather didn’t see an “easy fight” from a 3lb difference of 152-155. If Canelo was so easy as the the diehard Floyd fans claim, then it means Floyd was shook of 3lbs with Canelo and ducked the LINEAL 160 Title?!

        To duck a Lineal title in a new division for a fight that is supposedly easy is not even Floyd’s style. Lol. These Floyd fans don’t realize that Mayweather has always been about Lineal straps. Floyd ducked a potential 3Million PPV with the Canelo rematch to claim the 160 Lineal.

        This is why diehard Floyd fans only go by Round 6 replays of Floyd tagging Canelo in the corner with an uppercut, yet they don’t mention the Times Canelo countered Floyd flush on the chin and hit his body while pressuring forward after Rounds 7. Guerrero, Maidiana and Berto were easier fights.

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        • Bjl12
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          #14
          Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
          By 23 here are former Champions whom Floyd had on his resume:

          Age 32: Genaro Hernandez, who lost his 0 against DLH. Seasoned Super Feather
          Age 30: Vargas, seasoned Feather

          Champions who Floyd fought after whom were undefeated;

          Diego Corrales, Hatton, Canelo

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          By 23, here’s former Champions Canelo had on his resume:

          Baldomir: 39
          N’Dou: 39
          Cintron:32
          Mosley: 41
          Trout: 27 Undefeated

          Champions who Canelo fought thereafter, Undefeated;

          Liam Smith, Golovkin

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          X-Factor in difficulty imo is Trout (27) Undefeated vs Hernandez (32) 1 loss

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          Canelo has the opportunity to fight Undefeated Champion Andrade.

          Canelo now at 28, how many more fights facing Undefeated foes?

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          To Conclude:

          Floyd chose to defend his 147 WBC with former Featherweight Champ Guerrero when knowing Canelo had the 154 WBC strap from 2011-2013.

          Knowing Canelo has trouble making 154 since Cintron to Mosley and Trout’s 153.5 Catchweight, Floyd knew 152 would be more dentrimental to Saul Alvarez. Canelo Haters don’t like to bring up Tank Davis who proves weight on the scales is a challenge...

          Truth is Floyd was scared to fight Canelo at 154.

          Floyd had no problem fighting Cotto and DLH at the full 154. How many defenses did Floyd make at 154 to begin with?
          For comparison:

          At age 23:

          GGG - fighting little boys in amateurs...still not pro, needed more practice

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #15
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
            Mayweather vs Canelo was at 152/153? And there was no hydration clause.

            Even at 154, it would of been the same result.

            For me that fight was the last of Mayweathers great performances.
            Weights make a difference. Industry couldn’t understand why De La Hoya weighed 145 against PAC when 147 was there. Roach claimed that De La Hoya needed an IV, feeling like a David Lemieux. 2lbs are dentrimental if that’s not your previous camp calibrations. Again, Canelo had trouble making 154 against Cintron, Mosley and Lopez.

            It’s unheard of for Mayweather to ditch the LINEAL MIDDLEWEIGHT strap for 3lbs since fighting Canelo. If the fight was so easy Floyd would’ve taken the rematch and did 3Million PPV.

            No there was a reason for 152.

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #16
              Originally posted by Redd Foxx
              It was obvious that this thread was created with ulterior motives and you proved it in ^this post.

              Mayweather was the better fighter and will have the greater legacy. Just get over it. I'm not even a Mayweather fan. But, I can't standing all this fanboy/hater nonsense that goes on around here.
              Lol. Canelo is still fighting. Floyd needed the 152 handicap.

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              • millcitymauler
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                #17
                Originally posted by Frankie2Jabs
                By 23 here are former Champions whom Floyd had on his resume:

                Age 32: Genaro Hernandez, who lost his 0 against DLH. Seasoned Super Feather
                Age 30: Vargas, seasoned Feather

                Champions who Floyd fought after whom were undefeated;

                Diego Corrales, Hatton, Canelo

                ——————————-

                By 23, here’s former Champions Canelo had on his resume:

                Baldomir: 39
                N’Dou: 39
                Cintron:32
                Mosley: 41
                Trout: 27 Undefeated

                Champions who Canelo fought thereafter, Undefeated;

                Liam Smith, Golovkin

                ——————————

                X-Factor in difficulty imo is Trout (27) Undefeated vs Hernandez (32) 1 loss

                ——————————

                Canelo has the opportunity to fight Undefeated Champion Andrade.

                Canelo now at 28, how many more fights facing Undefeated foes?

                —————————

                To Conclude:

                Floyd chose to defend his 147 WBC with former Featherweight Champ Guerrero when knowing Canelo had the 154 WBC strap from 2011-2013.

                Knowing Canelo has trouble making 154 since Cintron to Mosley and Trout’s 153.5 Catchweight, Floyd knew 152 would be more dentrimental to Saul Alvarez. Canelo Haters don’t like to bring up Tank Davis who proves weight on the scales is a challenge...

                Truth is Floyd was scared to fight Canelo at 154.

                Floyd had no problem fighting Cotto and DLH at the full 154. How many defenses did Floyd make at 154 to begin with?
                You know know that Reynoso made the offer that Canelo would fight at 152, and Floyd accepted it. You went through all that noise you just wrote just to avoid the truth of what really happened in that negotiation.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by millcitymauler
                  You know know that Reynoso made the offer that Canelo would fight at 152, and Floyd accepted it. You went through all that noise you just wrote just to avoid the truth of what really happened in that negotiation.
                  Nope. You again seem to forget what a catchweight is. A catchweight is a stipulation between TWO fighters in separate weight classes. Floyd already fought Cotto and De La Hoya at the full 154.

                  The only reason Floyd got his way aside from A side and Oscar wanting Floyd to lose so bad was because Floyd was a champ in TWO Divisions. Floyd had the 147 WBC and the 154 Super WBA.

                  If Floyd had never fought at 154 it would be a case to meet at a catchweight from 150-152 in favor of Mayweather. The problem is that Floyd didn’t dare at 154 when Team Canelo had no choice Nd was pressured by Oscar to take it no matter what. Canelo said himself that he would never be forced to do that again. Being forced wasn’t by Floyd, it was by Oscar’s demand.

                  I will find the video of Canelo saying that, but here’s a video of Floyd Sr., also admitting that making 150 as a Junior Middleweight will take 100%, but says 152 is more in favor to the Junior Middleweight. Again, Canelo was already having trouble making 154 with Cintron, Mosley and Lopez. TMT did their homework and knew about Canelo anyways since the Mexican held the WBC 154 from 2011-2013 while Floyd was coasting 2 Divisions.

                  Because Floyd never attempted Canelo’s 155 WBC Middleweight strap proves he ducked the opportunity to add Lineal. Floyd didn’t even bother to give Cotto a rematch and take the 160 Lineal as well.

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                  • Eff Pandas
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                    #19
                    Don't understand the point of this comparison. Don't understand the legit point of any Floyd threads these days outside of dogging Floyd or dogging the other guy 99x outta 100 by Floyd haters or Floyd fanboys.

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                    • Chuckguy
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by icha
                      big canelo fan here, but we need to let it go, floyd is p4p the better fighter than canelo, he is clearly a level above...
                      canelo shouldnt have taken the fight at the time if he felt he was at disadvantage, just like dany garcia didnt...
                      This is a real canelo fan here. Keeping it real icha

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