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  • champion4ever
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    #71
    The same people who are counting Ortiz out now were the same ones who've counted him out when he was with Matchroom Sport; After two back to back lack luster performances against Malik Scott and David Allen.

    Many of the same people here are the same ones who said he was finished and done. Yet still none of the current title holders or top contenders wanted no parts of him except for Deontay Wilder.

    For example: Many British boxing fans said he was done but looked what he did to Deontay Wilder after those performances with Matchroom Sport? He looked like a completely different fighter. He nearly scored the upset victory by way of TKO and perhaps would have scored the TKO had there been another referee.

    The moral of the story is people have been counting out King Kong for years but after all this time he is still here.

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    • Noelanthony
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      #72
      Originally posted by champion4ever
      What a recipe for disaster? If Joyce has the courage to attempt to walk Ortiz down like that, then he would end up with a broken jaw or worse; Having the entire left side of his face hanging off from eating so many counters. This Christian Hammer cat was ranked what; the 115th challenger in the world? No wonder Ortiz performance was so uneven and lackluster. I seriously doubt if he even trained for this fight
      Oh that old chestnut ( excuse)

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      • Laligalaliga
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        #73
        Originally posted by The D3vil
        No one else wanted to fight him, though *shrugs*

        He's a year older and was pummeled by the hardest puncher in boxing.



        Which makes it even more pathetic that none of the other dudes in the HW division would fight him for the past 4 years.
        Stop all this BS excuses, it's enough. If nobody wants to fight him, let's his team bring out money, offer contracts and see how fights will line up for him.
        You can't sit in your back yard and say no one wants to fight you. Nobody owes you anything.

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        • Laligalaliga
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          #74
          Originally posted by champion4ever
          The same people who are counting Ortiz out now were the same ones who've counted him out when he was with Matchroom Sport; After two back to back lack luster performances against Malik Scott and David Allen.

          Many of the same people here are the same ones who said he was finished and done. Yet still none of the current title holders or top contenders wanted no parts of him except for Deontay Wilder.

          For example: Many British boxing fans said he was done but looked what he did to Deontay Wilder after those performances with Matchroom Sport? He looked like a completely different fighter. He nearly scored the upset victory by way of TKO and perhaps would have scored the TKO had there been another referee.

          The moral of the story is people have been counting out King Kong for years but after all this time he is still here.
          Is Ortiz allowed to send out contracts to other top 15 fighters?

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          • champion4ever
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            #75
            Originally posted by Laligalaliga
            Stop all this BS excuses, it's enough. If nobody wants to fight him, let's his team bring out money, offer contracts and see how fights will line up for him.
            You can't sit in your back yard and say no one wants to fight you. Nobody owes you anything.
            "King Kong" Luis Ortiz needs a centralized promoter because Al Haymon is not taking care of business for him at the moment.

            I would rather him sign to Top Rank and ESPN or Golden Boy and DAZN rather than the PBC because they have more creative are artistic autonomy over their platform's boxing content than Al Haymon does at either CBS or Fox. They will be in the better position to offer fighters the big bucks to fighting Luis Ortiz.

            However, keep in mind that those other fighters are signed with other promoters and platforms as well. Which will make it that much more difficult for Haymon or any other mover and shaker in the sport to just throw money around to sign fighters.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Laligalaliga
              Is Ortiz allowed to send out contracts to other top 15 fighters?
              Well no because he needs a promoter. An established and mainstream American based promoter since he lives in the Americas.

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                #77
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Well no because he needs a promoter. An established and mainstream American based promoter since he lives in the Americas.
                You’re right in that Ortiz hasn’t had the right backing to get the big fights. You either need money or to be setting the world alight with your performances to move up, and Ortiz has neither.

                The opportunity he was given through Matchroom was wasted through lacklustre performances.

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  "King Kong" Luis Ortiz needs a centralized promoter because Al Haymon is not taking care of business for him at the moment.

                  I would rather him sign to Top Rank and ESPN or Golden Boy and DAZN rather than the PBC because they have more creative are artistic autonomy over their platform's boxing content than Al Haymon does at either CBS or Fox. They will be in the better position to offer fighters the big bucks to fighting Luis Ortiz.

                  However, keep in mind that those other fighters are signed with other promoters and platforms as well. Which will make it that much more difficult for Haymon or any other mover and shaker in the sport to just throw money around to sign fighters.
                  With all these explanation you just did, are you still convinced other HW are scared of the almighty Ortiz than can't even get a decent promoter?

                  TBH, I hate to hear that fvvking excuse that no one wants to fight as if hez entitled to been offered a contract all the time.
                  He has his team and he has to run the business part of boxing to attract other guys to just the way whyte did.

                  Aside the top 3, whyte can attract any other HW and make good money. Ortiz should do same and crying like a little byyytch all the time.

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                  • Laligalaliga
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by champion4ever
                    Well no because he needs a promoter. An established and mainstream American based promoter since he lives in the Americas.
                    so whose fault is it?
                    If hez not getting, it's absolutely his fault. You just stated the obvious.
                    End of.

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                      #80
                      Still don’t get the Ortiz hype ....... I’ve tried and failed to see what’s so special about him

                      Boxing skill he’s sound for the first 7 rounds before he’s blowing out his hoop and getting tagged

                      Any decent pressure fighter will cook Ortiz

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