Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Decisions a Durable Christian Hammer Over Ten

[The plunger man]

Based on what? He's just as durable as Parker.

Parker has never been stopped , hammer stopped by fury & Marius wach.
And hammer has seen better days.
He would get crushed by Joshua inside 4 rounds

[BigStomps]

Lmao! Seriously dude.. wtf! Lol

He had a little head and a big upper body... 🤣

[champion4ever]

Like who? He was mandatory for Joshua and decided to fail a drugs test

Pathetic Wilder fans and their limited intelligence.

Wait a minute. I always thought that he was cleared of that recent drug test for popping dirty for High Blood Pressure medication. The WBC ruled that he had a TUE (The****utic Use Exemption) for taking them due to a medical issue.

Well at least that's the narrative that I keep hearing from English fans on this forum who attempt to discredit, slander and smear Wilder's TKO victory over him due to the fact that he was both old, sickly and had hypertension.

[MaksBox]

Oh let's not forget... Ortiz BoogeyMan days were largely before he got busted for STEROIDS! TWICE! Not Meldonium or anything else... hard care steroids.

Coincidence? I think not.

[Jkp]

Neither is Wilder when we are talking strictly boxing but it doesn’t stop him knocking most of his opponents out.

Joyce will walk Ortiz down. Ortiz will quit. Yes Ortiz is far more skilled but Joyce will take Ortiz’s best punches and keep coming forward and ultimately take his heart. That is a fight I will put my money where my mouth is and bet anyone. Ortiz is finished

This is getting ridiculous, your comparing Joyce to wilder now.
and suggesting slow motion Joyce can walk through a heavy weights punches? like some invincible Monk?

The other big problem Joyce has, is he has no power.

He literally gets beaten easily in every single area of boxing.and has no strengths.

[Noelanthony]

This is getting ridiculous, your comparing Joyce to wilder now.
and suggesting slow motion Joyce can walk through a heavy weights punches? like some invincible Monk?

The other big problem Joyce has, is he has no power.

He literally gets beaten easily in every single area of boxing.and has no strengths.

I didn’t compare him to Wilder you just said he can’t box and I said neither can Wilder. Sure he is not a heavy puncher like Wilder but who is? He can punch too what makes you think he can’t? Coupled with the fact that he brings that pressure and can walk through a heavyweight punch. Personally he has the best chin in the division but that remains to be seen as I’m just going off Fighters that have spoke about his chin.

When you say Joyce has no strengths who are you comparing him too or you are just making a statement?

[Noelanthony]

Still don’t get the Ortiz hype ....... I’ve tried and failed to see what’s so special about him

Boxing skill he’s sound for the first 7 rounds before he’s blowing out his hoop and getting tagged

Any decent pressure fighter will cook Ortiz

Cook him?? Deep fry his old arse

[Noelanthony]

I don't think Ortiz is finished yet.This guy is not that well known and posed no real threat on paper I doubt Ortiz even trained properly for the fight because it's hard to get up for these kinds of fighters.He obviously beat him convincingly judging by the scorecards.This guy Hammer on the other hand probably trained like this was his last chance and probably fought with more determination than he has ever fought with.If Ortiz is presented with a Joshua or Wilder fight he will be up for it and ready.This guy I'm sure he viewed as just a stay ready fight and probably wasn't up for it and didn't train properly.

Unless you are Ortiz ‘s wife don’t say a word please. Tell me a fight where he did train and looked fantastic? . You don’t know, besides at 48 years how hard can you really train?

[Cutthroat]

Parker has never been stopped , hammer stopped by fury & Marius wach.
And hammer has seen better days.
He would get crushed by Joshua inside 4 rounds

Ortiz has only been stopped by the hardest puncher in the division, Wilder would knock JP out too.

Hammer stalked Tyson Fury the whole bout, against Ortiz he constantly backpedaled. He fought Wach 8 years ago when he barely had 8 fights in and he had to stalk him as well.

AJ couldn't even crush Takam or Parker that early and Ortiz is way better.

[BendOver]

You’re right in that Ortiz hasn’t had the right backing to get the big fights. You either need money or to be setting the world alight with your performances to move up, and Ortiz has neither.

The opportunity he was given through Matchroom was wasted through lacklustre performances.

matchroom promote him twice. It was never a long term contract. allen and malik were running the whole time, they were there only to survive. Still he won both fights very easy and if I recall correctly allen was koed. The only reason hearn promote him was to keep him away from aj. Stop with the bs.