Comments Thread For: Espinoza Feels Joshua Wants Wilder Fight, Hearn Does Not

[Sid-Knee]

Wilder has THE belt that everyone guns for, in the market that would deliver double the value of Joshua's market, at the least.

Context is a beautiful thing.

Double the market that Joshua fights in? And yet AJ makes huge money while Americans make peanuts in comparison. And those who do make more needs a Brit to be involved.

Who cares about what title it is? Doesn't make Wilder any more money than if he had any of the other 3. Doesn't make Wilder any better as a fighter. So why come up with this level of nonsense as though it has even a shred of value?

[Sid-Knee]

On just disclosed purses alone, Wilder has earned about $25m since he became champion, the money has continued to grow with every fight, this coming Breazeale fight will likely be the last time we see Wilder off of PPV, and he's likely set to be on $15m+ guaranteed money from them on, with breaking through on PPV making $30m+ a fight viable, with $300m+ on a fight as the high-water mark to aim for if he keeps handling his business.

Three weeks on from announcing the Miller fight, you can still go to the official MSG website and buy a basket allotment of 12 tickets in basically the entire lower bowl (you can't buy 12 tickets in a row, ringside or in the second level, which is good I guess). Have fun

Wilder's set to make how much????

Man, you need to stop smoking the drugs you're on. Your head has been detached from reality on a major basis.

Although very funny to read such delusion. Hahahaha

[Tyistall]

Wilder has THE belt that everyone guns for, in the market that would deliver double the value of Joshua's market, at the least.

Context is a beautiful thing.

Wilder has devalued that belt from the day he won it from the fat turd Stiverne. He has gone the Stevenson route by fighting bums and straying away from anything that looks like a challenge. That one belt is not worth more than the 4 total that AJ has and if it were worth more, them Wilder would make more to defend it. And AJ is already making more in one fight than Wilder has made in his entire career in the US market. Try again

[Scipio2009]

Double the market that Joshua fights in? And yet AJ makes huge money while Americans make peanuts in comparison. And those who do make more needs a Brit to be involved.

Who cares about what title it is? Doesn't make Wilder any more money than if he had any of the other 3. Doesn't make Wilder any better as a fighter. So why come up with this level of nonsense as though it has even a shred of value?

It's more than double. Floyd showed the world that $400m pots are possible, and even Alvarez-Golovkin split something like $50m+ on their fights.

A long road, but Wilder is almost there.

AJ can't get any bigger than he is right now, especially now. Let that settle in.

[Scipio2009]

Wilder's set to make how much????

Man, you need to stop smoking the drugs you're on. Your head has been detached from reality on a major basis.

Although very funny to read such delusion. Hahahaha

250k PPV buys gets you $10m, a great live event gets you a number, and it's still not clear what the ITV money looks like.

Wilder is basically well above that mark for viable fights (Joshua, Fury and Ortiz rematches), and likely viable on PPV as Wilder-TBA from the fight after that on.

Once you're breaking even on PPV, it's basically a $15m pot being divvied up.

In case you didn't know

[The plunger man]

On just disclosed purses alone, Wilder has earned about $25m since he became champion, the money has continued to grow with every fight, this coming Breazeale fight will likely be the last time we see Wilder off of PPV, and he's likely set to be on $15m+ guaranteed money from them on, with breaking through on PPV making $30m+ a fight viable, with $300m+ on a fight as the high-water mark to aim for if he keeps handling his business.

Three weeks on from announcing the Miller fight, you can still go to the official MSG website and buy a basket allotment of 12 tickets in basically the entire lower bowl (you can't buy 12 tickets in a row, ringside or in the second level, which is good I guess). Have fun

fight is not till 1st of june so still 12 weeks togo and if we talk about ticket sales wilder fury were giving tickets away so don't even go there.
Who is wilder going to fight on ppv ? Ortiz looked shot last night ? Wilder will not fight fury on espn because of finkle and showtime.
Yiu have this illusion that wilder will somehow elevate himself to a ppv fighter with the likes of ortiz and joyce.
Wilde has zero options to make big money without wider and fury.

[The plunger man]

Double the market that Joshua fights in? And yet AJ makes huge money while Americans make peanuts in comparison. And those who do make more needs a Brit to be involved.

Who cares about what title it is? Doesn't make Wilder any more money than if he had any of the other 3. Doesn't make Wilder any better as a fighter. So why come up with this level of nonsense as though it has even a shred of value?

This goon sid....is complete lunatic no two ways about it.

[TheUptownKid]

Why would wilder need to sign to dazn for any amount of fights, to fight Joshua? If you want to show his Joshua fight on dazn, that’s one thing, but he needs to sign for multiple fights to get to joshua? That’s bs and I don’t blame wilder for seeing that

[R_Walken]

its common sense

if wilder loses haymon and Espinoza live on and are still power players in the sport....still a wealth of talent left

if AJ loses hearn is no longer a power player in the sport

its common sense...and very simple...easy to see

With AJ I think it’s the other way around, AJs a star in the UK , He could’ve have gone the Mayweather route and go without a promoter. His popularity wouldn’t be effected at all

I think Hearn needs AJ more then AJ needs Hearn at this point

Espinoza still not providing any evidence this 3 page terms was sent? All they have to do is go in their sent folder and it'll be there with date and everything. It was never sent. More lies from Wilders side.

When was the last time a executive released a contract to the public ; That he looked at as Amateur Hour by everyone in the sport except fans just to prove Hearn is a liar ,

He’s already proven that many times over so what’s the point

This is why I want to see what Hearn claimed he received. Firstly Stephen said Wilder sent it, Hearn claimed Wilder sent it. So we can all agree Stephen didn’t sent the email.

So if Stephen didn’t send the email how does he know what was sent? I mean did Wilder forgot to attach the “detailed document” that Stephen is referring to? Because according to Hearn he received “A paragraph” of an email from Wilder saying he has 50m for Joshua.

And even if they have 50m for Joshua why would his opponent be sending that sort of email? Wouldn’t it be better sent by his lawyers, managers or representatives?

Moreover Warren and Lou di Bella confirm that BT sport were involved in the 50+30m offer, where would that come in? Where would that leave Joshua along with his sky deal. Especially now that we see how Wilder doesn’t want to fight on any other network (As a free agent) and Fury can’t fight on another network as he is signed exclusively to ESPN.

Which should have put that offer into contest if BT sport were involved.

Warren/ Dibella didn’t confirm

Why would they send a offer stating it has to be on BT knowing it’d make the fight impossible to make / I think Haymon / Espinoza know better then that

First of all, I live in LA dumbass. Second, you are right, it's 100 million, and that's 80 million in pounds. And Wilder anf his fans are both ******ed if you think that he can make any kind of real money with Showtime and Hamon hahaha. Hamon has kept his fighters away from big fights for years, milking their belts like Stevenson did, fighting bums. That's why Wilder can't make any real money, he never risks that belt. And that "drug addict" beat Wilder last time out so Wilder shouldn't even have that belt.

You’re higher then giraffe p.ussy if you think that Fury’s getting 100m fighting 2nd tier HW on Espn +

Mention Stevenson but don’t mention all the fighters who’ve been in the biggest fights ever and all the fighters in his roster who’ve had big fights. Look at Top Ranks Champs Zurdo/Valdez horrible resumes as champs . Look at Mungia so far . All promoters have / has champs that don’t have good resumes

[Curt Henning]

With AJ I think it’s the other way around, AJs a star in the UK , He could’ve have gone the Mayweather route and go without a promoter. His popularity wouldn’t be effected at all

I think Hearn needs AJ more then AJ needs Hearn at this point



When was the last time a executive released a contract to the public ; That he looked at as Amateur Hour by everyone in the sport except fans just to prove Hearn is a liar ,

He’s already proven that many times over so what’s the point



Warren/ Dibella didn’t confirm

Why would they send a offer stating it has to be on BT knowing it’d make the fight impossible to make / I think Haymon / Espinoza know better then that




You’re higher then giraffe p.ussy if you think that Fury’s getting 100m fighting 2nd tier HW on Espn +

Mention Stevenson but don’t mention all the fighters who’ve been in the biggest fights ever and all the fighters in his roster who’ve had big fights. Look at Top Ranks Champs Zurdo/Valdez horrible resumes as champs . Look at Mungia so far . All promoters have / has champs that don’t have good resumes

i totally agree....and i meant it the other way around if you can see by the statement i made about wilder in regards to espinoza and haymon...sometimes i get multitasking and typing so fast im not really reading back what im typing lol

anyway you slice it...if AJ loses or drops hearn what does eddie become? he dont have much