Comments Thread For: Fighter of The Decade? Mayweather, Ward Top List of Candidates

[Boxing_1013]

GGG's best wins are Jacobs and Kell Brook. There's no way he's fighter of the decade.

I think the problem is a lot of the criticism of GGG's resume is just not accurate at all. I understand why people say it - because if you don't like him it is really the only thing you can try and hate on him for. He won almost all his fights by KO, so saying those guys ****** is the only recourse most people have if they want to diminish what he did. Even the Jacobs and Canelo fights were pretty straightforward wins for him but the first time his fights go to decision anyone who hates on him is quick to say he lost those fights lol. It's just not really sound analysis.

But yeah GGG's dominant stretch started in 2011 with the win over Ouma and he has (imo, giving him the two Canelo wins) 17 good to great wins on his resume. By far the best resume of anyone else in the running this decade. As far as best wins I would say Canelo (2) and Jacobs were his top 3. But Murray, Geale, Stevens, Lemieux, Brook would all be in the second batch. Followed by Vanes, Proksa, Rubio, Monroe, Ouma, Adama, Macklin, Ishidia, Rosado. All of those past the first 3 fights were all by KOs and pretty dominant. Just a great resume for anyone. Don't see how people can really try and hate on the man that much. He deserves much more credit.

[daggum]

this must be for the runner up to fighter of the decade because the fighter of the decade is clearly adrien broner.

[Boxing_1013]

Yeah, he looked better than Kovalev ever did; who beat Ward, whom some here have nominated.

It's ironic that GGG's stretch of dominance started just about at the beginning of this decade. If the Canelo fights went his way I think most people, even those who hate on him, who begrudgingly say he deserves FOTD. A lot of people really are over the top with their hate on him/his resume, but when you study it a little bit he has a lot of really solid wins.

[megas30]

Sure you can. Easily. A guy like Loma’s Pedigree you think Hauser’s thinking about Salido? If Canelo was “easy,” you think Floyd would’ve wanted a rematch with a 155 version of Canelo?

Bro, I am considering the fact that Mayweather beats bigger names, was involved and won the biggest ppv in boxing history, and also beaten some of biggest names on Canelo's record while beating him. Geezer, does a man always have to break down things for y'all?

[daggum]

My problem is with the Rosenthal list.

Chocolatito? After getting dominated and sparked cold by an underdog in Rungvisai? No!

And then you dismiss Floyd's wins because of age (Canelo 'Green'? 'Green' fighters don't dominate Shane Mosley, Kermit Cintron, Carlos Baldomir and Alfonso Gomez.)

Yet, you go on to praise Crawford's wins when he really only had TWO notable ones: Gamboa and Postol. Gamboa you say was "respected" which you know full well was BS and Postol basically threw the fight.

those opponents were all terrible. he had only fought one good opponent in trout and struggled mightily. and he should have used the canelo was drained argument since both guys were 154 champs and fought at 152 for inexplicable reasons. so a drained and green canelo. yep sounds like floyd. at least ward has wins over prime guys they just werent legit wins lol

[South Champion]

If Crawford beats one of the other undefeated Welterweight champs (Thurman or Spence) by the end of 2019, I would give him Fighter of the Decade. Or if Mikey Garcia pulls off the upset of Spence I would give it to him.


The Fighter of the Decade is a bit of a strange award. Because any great fighter can have a great year, but even an all time great has trouble having 10 great consecutive prime years that all fall into the same decade. For instance, I wouldn't call Mayweather best fighter of the 2000s decade or 2010s decade, but I would call him the best fighter of 2005-2015 (but there isn't an award for that).

[daggum]

Bro, I am considering the fact that Mayweather beats bigger names, was involved and won the biggest ppv in boxing history, and also beaten some of biggest names on Canelo's record while beating him. Geezer, does a man always have to break down things for y'all?

but when they weren't good. how many prime elites at their legit weight did floyd beat? zero. couldn't even get one? ward and canelo both have at least 2 even though they are highly dubious they at least fought them. cant even say floyd has 1 fight against such fighters

[Combat Talk Radio]

Mosley was shot. Mundine made that same Mosley quit. Gomez was also past his best and much smaller. Baldomir was old as hell and ass and Cintron always ******.

Gamboa was respected and Postol did not throw the fight. He was just outclassed.

See, that's your problem. You don't understand how it works.

When Manny beats up on the leftovers of other fighters - guys coming off losses - we call them dominant wins. When other fighters do it, they're "past best", "quit", "old", etc.

Why aren't we talking about the fact that Crawford beat a Gamboa that was a shell of himself? And no, he was NOT respected. Did you forget the commentary during that fight?

There were segments in the Postol fight where he literally REFUSED to throw a punch at Crawford. We're talking 10-second long stretches just staring at him. That's effectively quitting.

Canelo beat NAMED, EXPERIENCED fighters. What I'm saying to you and others is, that debunks this notion of him being "green" - because even if you account age, there's NO WAY a "green" fighter is beating former champions bro. He wasn't green.

Green is when Loma got schooled by Salido. THAT is green. Loma had just debuted.

Now, if you want to be fair about it, let's do that.

Since Canelo at 40+ fights and having beaten at least 5 former champions in dominant fashion was "green" - it completely negates EVERYTHING Lomachenko has done, since his signature win is against an old, undersized Rigo that quit.

Right?

[RespekonMyName]

Amazing how Floyd's Canelo win is being completely discredited, especially when Saul is in the discussion for FOTD. It's almost a contradiction to the article. Who else beat a FOTD candidate other than Floyd? Canelo!

[chrisJS]

See, that's your problem. You don't understand how it works.

When Manny beats up on the leftovers of other fighters - guys coming off losses - we call them dominant wins. When other fighters do it, they're "past best", "quit", "old", etc.

Why aren't we talking about the fact that Crawford beat a Gamboa that was a shell of himself? And no, he was NOT respected. Did you forget the commentary during that fight?

There were segments in the Postol fight where he literally REFUSED to throw a punch at Crawford. We're talking 10-second long stretches just staring at him. That's effectively quitting.

Canelo beat NAMED, EXPERIENCED fighters. What I'm saying to you and others is, that debunks this notion of him being "green" - because even if you account age, there's NO WAY a "green" fighter is beating former champions bro. He wasn't green.

Green is when Loma got schooled by Salido. THAT is green. Loma had just debuted.

Now, if you want to be fair about it, let's do that.

Since Canelo at 40+ fights and having beaten at least 5 former champions in dominant fashion was "green" - it completely negates EVERYTHING Lomachenko has done, since his signature win is against an old, undersized Rigo that quit.

Right?

You contradicted yourself by pointing the finger at others for using age and “quitting” and you did it yourself multiple times.

I’m not sure Loma’s signature win was Rigo. I know a ton of people that picked Rigo though and he did win every second of every round but I think I’d lean more towards his dominant wins over Walters or Russell both of whom were backed heavily to defeat him and lost badly.

FYI I actually didn’t say anywhere that Canelo was green so I’m confused as to why you are coming at me with that. Read my post. I just said those opponents were ass. Now was Canelo near his best? No. I personally felt the Trout fight could have gone either way and that he lost clearly to Lara.

I’m also not sure what Pacquaio has to do with this? Pacquaio beat some washed up guys, he beat some top guys and in dominant fashion. He’s a good fighter IMO.