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  • Robertthebruce
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    #21
    Originally posted by Rikanlynx86
    I would love to see this fight happen again. I would prefer to see Ortiz fight one more eliminator against another top guy to earn a shot at the title again. Even though ortiz put up a great fight, he was still kod so i think he should have to fight another guy by his rank and see who gets the title shot.
    Yes Ortiz and Whyte should fight for next mandatory after Breazeale. We will see how good Whyte really is

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    • AL_Camino
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      #22
      Originally posted by Robertthebruce
      Yes Ortiz and Whyte should fight for next mandatory after Breazeale. We will see how good Whyte really is
      I completely agree with this. I was trying to think of a name for Ortiz to fight and that is the guy. I think Ortiz wins but Whyte could surprise me. It makes too much sense for these guys to fight next so i doubt it ll happen lol.

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      • Redgloveman
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        #23
        Originally posted by champion4ever
        Lastly, Deontay Wilder's potentially next four opponents are probably Breazeale, Kownacki, Whyte and Ortiz.
        Surely you want to see him fight Joshua before he fights those 4? Because that fight actually seems pretty easy to make now since Joshua's getting desperate.

        Breazeale is a fairly dubious name but makes sense because of the mandatory, but Kownacki? He's really done nothing to earn a shot.

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        • Adamsc151
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          #24
          Originally posted by DougalDylan
          Very true but ...

          i) DAZN hold on AJ is not strong (they only have first refusal on his next fight), they don't manage or promote him.

          ii) Finkel has previous for extremely bad contract tricks like Don King , he basically stole Sahnnon Briggs money see US courts. Hearn hasn't.

          Really Al Haymon should get Finkel kicked out, Wilder has other "managers" now and Al runs a bucket load of them. Shelley needs to retire.
          Agreed on Finkel being sent to the retirement home; Bob Arum can join him there, with Frank Warren not too far behind if he can't stop his shows from erupting into drunken crowd brawling. As a whole the UK's been trying to shed the image of pissed up, fat, shirtless, sports fans that can't stop scrapping - Warren's shows over the past couple of years are threatening to drag us back to the dark ages.

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          • champion4ever
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            #25
            Originally posted by Redgloveman
            Surely you want to see him fight Joshua before he fights those 4? Because that fight actually seems pretty easy to make now since Joshua's getting desperate.

            Breazeale is a fairly dubious name but makes sense because of the mandatory, but Kownacki? He's really done nothing to earn a shot.
            Sure, I would love to see that fight happen before any of the aforementioned ones above.

            It's just Deontay's heart has hardened since being strung along for four months in 2018 after agreeing to all of the terms and conditions that was set forth by Joshua only to have him to rescind the offer at eleventh hour in order to challenge Povetkin instead.

            Hearn and Joshua are going to have to work more than twice as hard in order to help build and win back Wilder's trust if that fight ever has the potential of seeing the light of day again.

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            • AdonisCreed
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              #26
              I actually think negotiations between AJ and Wilder will go a little more smoothly this time around. I think the success and the excitement the Fury and Wilder fight created will make Hearn a little more lenient this time. And also with fury pulling out it will make Wilder's team a little more eager to secure a fight.

              I wouldn't bet any money on that, but it seems like the two sides "SHOULD" be able to come to an agreement. But who knows when egos are involved nothing is guaranteed.

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              • Redgloveman
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                #27
                Originally posted by champion4ever
                Sure, I would love to see that fight happen before any of the aforementioned ones above.

                It's just Deontay's heart has hardened since being strung along for four months in 2018 after agreeing to all of the terms and conditions that was set forth by Joshua only to have him to rescind the offer at eleventh hour in order to challenge Povetkin instead.

                Hearn and Joshua are going to have to work more than twice as hard in order to help build and win back Wilder's trust if that fight ever has the potential of seeing the light of day again.
                I don’t see it like that. Joshua’s got the 3 belts so it shouldn’t be a case of rebuilding the relationship. Wilder should b-line for Joshua; hunt his ass down, get him in the ring and relieve him of the rest of the belts.

                It really is that simple.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by AdonisCreed
                  I actually think negotiations between AJ and Wilder will go a little more smoothly this time around. I think the success and the excitement the Fury and Wilder fight created will make Hearn a little more lenient this time. And also with fury pulling out it will make Wilder's team a little more eager to secure a fight.

                  I wouldn't bet any money on that, but it seems like the two sides "SHOULD" be able to come to an agreement. But who knows when egos are involved nothing is guaranteed.
                  Joshua’s also surely getting sick of being seen as avoiding Wilder. I agree with you and think that the time is right for both sides now.

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                  • MisanthropicNY
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                    #29
                    Without the help of a Ref and the judges, Wilder is 0-2 in his last two fights. And he would have lost to an old High-blood-pressure having tomato can. Now he's going to rematch an even older version. Yikes.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Redgloveman
                      I don’t see it like that. Joshua’s got the 3 belts so it shouldn’t be a case of rebuilding the relationship. Wilder should b-line for Joshua; hunt his ass down, get him in the ring and relieve him of the rest of the belts.

                      It really is that simple.
                      You don't know Deontay Wilder. Wilder's a bohemian; An unconventional, rebel, loner, idealist and visionary. He is a very misunderstood individual. He's someone who couldn't give a good damn about nothing or what anybody cares or thinks. That's how he rolls and operates. He won't settle or compromise for anything short of what he wants or feels is right.

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