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  • todisday
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    #81
    Originally posted by deanrw
    That was a knockdown with a seizure. of course it would be stopped. You tell me if that dude would get up on steady legs within 10 seconds? He might attempt to, but would not be able to stand up. Learn the difference between TKO and a true knockout. I have been knocked out, by a car accident many years ago. It took hours to realize who I even was. Those hours in between are completely lost from my memory forever. I was also stunned by a 44 foot fall to the pavement 25 years ago. I was not completely out, and trust me, the pain of 22 fractures I remember vividly. I remember every second of free falling and landing, along with thinking I was going to die 5 seconds after I landed.
    There are all kinds of knockouts. There was a chance that dude with the seizure could've gotten up. Would he have stood a chance afterward? Probably not! Should it have been stopped? YES!

    That's the entire point.

    Knockouts are knockouts.

    Just because Fury didn't end up like Adonis Stevenson doesn't mean it was the correct call.

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      #82
      Originally posted by todisday
      Yeah, that's why Fury's hiding

      That's their story and they're sticking to it!
      Fury is just stacking his paper before he takes your boy to school again. Don't worry, at least Wilder gets to keep his stolen belt for a little while longer.

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        #83
        Originally posted by denium
        Fury is just stacking his paper before he takes your boy to school again. Don't worry, at least Wilder gets to keep his stolen belt for a little while longer.
        Fury isn't fighting Wilder this year or next year. Same goes for Joshua. They're going to wait until Wilder slows down.

        I hope his old version still KOs them both. It'd be funny!

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          #84
          Originally posted by todisday
          Fury isn't fighting Wilder this year or next year. Same goes for Joshua. They're going to wait until Wilder slows down.

          I hope his old version still KOs them both. It'd be funny!
          I doubt it tbh. Wilder will disappear back to Alabama with his tail between his legs when defeated by Fury/AJ.

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            #85
            Originally posted by todisday
            There are all kinds of knockouts. There was a chance that dude with the seizure could've gotten up. Would he have stood a chance afterward? Probably not! Should it have been stopped? YES!

            That's the entire point.

            Knockouts are knockouts.

            Just because Fury didn't end up like Adonis Stevenson doesn't mean it was the correct call.

            Fury got up and was obviously coherent enough to continue his business, which means it was the correct call. Good refs can determine everything from the eyes of a fighter. If the eyes show signs of awareness, it means they are conscious. If they do not, time to wave the fight off.

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              #86
              I also believe Fury is ducking the Wilder rematch but I am no Wilder fan. Fury just lacks general motivation, that is his biggest issue and with a massive deal waved in front of him, he knows he can fight a couple of B level names before facing off against AJ.

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                #87
                Originally posted by deanrw
                Fury got up and was obviously coherent enough to continue his business, which means it was the correct call. Good refs can determine everything from the eyes of a fighter. If the eyes show signs of awareness, it means they are conscious. If they do not, time to wave the fight off.
                Fury himself tells you that he was out cold, and you want to pretend like the ref had psychic abilities. It's clear as day that he was out, almost dead, to everyone. Ref didn't see anything. He just kept counting for whatever unknown reason. Completely irresponsible.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by denium
                  I doubt it tbh. Wilder will disappear back to Alabama with his tail between his legs when defeated by Fury/AJ.
                  Even if they beat a past-prime Wilder, that won't change the history. They ducked him at his best!

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by todisday
                    That wasn't out cold, Holmes was moving immediately, but he was so dazed he slooowly got up.

                    Personally, that fight should've been stopped, too, because he was out of it, but that is nowhere near the same situation as a guy literally almost dead in the ring showing no movement whatsoever with eyes eyes blank.

                    Ya'll reaching.
                    OK now I can't take you serious, you're saying Holmes v Shavers II should've been stopped aswell? You would've denied Holmes that glorious comeback. Come on man, you're the one reaching now. Starting to think you're a troll

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by HeadBodyBodyBody
                      OK now I can't take you serious, you're saying Holmes v Shavers II should've been stopped aswell? You would've denied Holmes that glorious comeback. Come on man, you're the one reaching now. Starting to think you're a troll
                      In the Holmes clip posted on here, a stoppage would've been warranted. Dude was bouncing around almost like Zab Judah vs Kostya. That makes it clear that he can't continue without serious risk to his health.

                      Keep in mind that is nowhere near as dramatic as what happened in the Fury fight, but, yes, that shouldn't have been allowed to go on.

                      There's a line between entertainment and needless punishment.

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