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  • Chuckguy
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    #131
    Originally posted by todisday
    The donate knockdown? Whatchu talking about, Chuck? I didn't receive any donations from Fury, and he hasn't knocked me down. If what you're saying is true, then I feel bad for the one-legged homeless man suffering such a fate. It's not his fault people are skeptical as to whether Fury donated his purse. And I'm not insulting Fury, either, by calling it a purse. For whatever reason, that's the standard term for money received for a fight by boxers.

    I really don't want any trouble
    I can see where you are coming from man but you have to let it go. You are going to develop an aneurism. I hate that ggg got jobbed at least once but fk it it happened and it’s time to move on. Wilder should get another shot and let’s hope for your sake he does a better job. Time will tell bro until then relax

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      #132
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
      Tyson Fury has now ducked both Anthony Joshua & Deontay Wilder after years YEARS! Of giving them abuse and calling them dossers, for years after he did not rematch Waldimir Kiltschko all he did was tell people? How easy he would beat the stiff body builder in Anthony Joshua, and also beat Deontay Wilder 'Although he did say that Wilder was the best of the two' but anybody with any emotional & social intelligence would read that he was just deflecting his attentions away from Anthony Joshua 'Who stylistically, could potentially walk through Tyson Fury as if he was made out of paper mache'...

      I stated this before? Everyone after the Fury vs Wilder fight, where stating that Wilder had been exposed. 'I disagree, Wilder at elite level drops rounds to his opponents all the time but? Eventually he always finds a way to apply his simple yet violent game plan of knocking you out! And in reality, exactly the same thing happened when he fought Tyson Fury. Yes Deontay Wilder was being out boxed, but he kept coming all night! Pressing forward at 212 pounds against a man who was mocking his physique and foundation. He kept coming forward all night, applying his simple yet violent game-plan! And eventually decked Tyson Fury twice, and ended his career in the 12 th for a matter of seconds 'Exactly the same thing that has happened in the majority of his fights' Tyson Fury did not beat him up or deter him at any point.

      Just like in Rocky I, the fact of the matter is? Deontay Wilder won the FIGHT, he inflicted the most damage and in my opinion has installed some genuine fear with Tyson Fury. I don't see any confidence in Tyson Fury now, when he speaks of Deontay Wilder, not the same kind of conviction as pre-Fury vs Wilder I.


      Tyson Fury now realizes that this two dossers called Anthony Joshua & Deontay Wilder are serious individuals. He is buying himself some time, but eventually he will have to face Deontay Wilder again aswell as Anthony Joshua.

      Tyson Fury and his team realize they need to add or rediscover new dimensions to his game. That is why they have not and will not take the Wilder or Joshua fight any time soon.

      Most of your post is garbage. But I think the last bit hits home a very good point.

      Fury's uncle crafted him into the best pure-boxer EVER. This dude is in league w/ Gene Tunney. Tunney, however, was a savant who'd adapted a pure-boxer style as he matured out of a slugger.

      In breaking w/ his uncle, tyson might be trying to diversify his game and adopt an offense. Everyone references the Cunninham fight. All that shows is that Fury is uncomfortable on the front foot. That's why he embarrassed Wilder, but didn't punish him.

      Hopefully, in time, we see a complete and well rounded fighter emerge under the new leadership.

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      • PRINCEKOOL
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        #133
        Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
        Most of your post is garbage. But I think the last bit hits home a very good point.

        Fury's uncle crafted him into the best pure-boxer EVER. This dude is in league w/ Gene Tunney. Tunney, however, was a savant who'd adapted a pure-boxer style as he matured out of a slugger.

        In breaking w/ his uncle, tyson might be trying to diversify his game and adopt an offense. Everyone references the Cunninham fight. All that shows is that Fury is uncomfortable on the front foot. That's why he embarrassed Wilder, but didn't punish him.

        Hopefully, in time, we see a complete and well rounded fighter emerge under the new leadership.
        Tyson Fury is not the best pure boxer ever, he thusfar at elite level has been a one trick pony 'But as Toney Bellew used to say? It is a really good trick'. Floyd Mayweather was not a one trick pony, Lennox Lewis was not a one trick pony etc These where multi dimensional fighters, Lennox lewis boxed Evander Holyfield in their first match, but in the second fight fought on the inside more because he had to 'Even though he 'LEWIS' won the first fight' Tyson Fury is not going to beat Deontay Wilder the second time round with the exact same style. 'I honestly don't think the rematch will be any time soon, and Wilder most likely will be beaten by Joshua'

        At elite level it seems like Tyson Fury can only fight one way, his uncle Peter Fury even stated? 'He was confused as to why Tyson Fury did not impose his size of Deontay Wilder after 6 rounds' Deontay Wilder generates most of his power from hooks, he does not typical do damage with short inside punches. 'Tyson Fury should of went shoulder to shoulder and took all the power out of Wilder punches' pushed him around and beat him up, against lower level fighters who he out weights massively 'We have seen Tyson Fury do this I.E Steve USS Cunningham, but at elite level? He seems to not apply these methods.

        So in reality? This is why Tyson Fury is not fighting Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder next, he needs to go into deep training and add dimensions to his game. The semi violent game of tick he has been playing, will work against limited fighters 'He may win rounds here and there' but he is certainly not beating up or knocking out Anthony Joshua with that game plan.

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        • Boxing Goat
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          #134
          Originally posted by Madison boxing
          wilder lost and fury got up in time. quit crying. your hero in his prime lost to a guy who had spent the previous years drinking beer and snorting coke whilst wilder was putting in the hours at the gym. youll have to live with that.
          He actually didn't lose. It was a draw.

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            #135
            Damn, poor Jacobs was denied his chance of roaring back after the KD like Fury!!

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            • Madison Boxing
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              #136
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              He actually didn't lose. It was a draw.
              He lost i dont care about the verdicts of some paid off judges.

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                #137
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                Tyson Fury is not the best pure boxer ever, he thusfar at elite level has been a one trick pony 'But as Toney Bellew used to say? It is a really good trick'. Floyd Mayweather was not a one trick pony, Lennox Lewis was not a one trick pony etc These where multi dimensional fighters, Lennox lewis boxed Evander Holyfield in their first match, but in the second fight fought on the inside more because he had to 'Even though he 'LEWIS' won the first fight' Tyson Fury is not going to beat Deontay Wilder the second time round with the exact same style. 'I honestly don't think the rematch will be any time soon, and Wilder most likely will be beaten by Joshua'

                At elite level it seems like Tyson Fury can only fight one way, his uncle Peter Fury even stated? 'He was confused as to why Tyson Fury did not impose his size of Deontay Wilder after 6 rounds' Deontay Wilder generates most of his power from hooks, he does not typical do damage with short inside punches. 'Tyson Fury should of went shoulder to shoulder and took all the power out of Wilder punches' pushed him around and beat him up, against lower level fighters who he out weights massively 'We have seen Tyson Fury do this I.E Steve USS Cunningham, but at elite level? He seems to not apply these methods.

                So in reality? This is why Tyson Fury is not fighting Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder next, he needs to go into deep training and add dimensions to his game. The semi violent game of tick he has been playing, will work against limited fighters 'He may win rounds here and there' but he is certainly not beating up or knocking out Anthony Joshua with that game plan.
                Doyou're parents know you're up this late? Maybe you convinced them you're working on a school project? So did Washington REALLY chop down that cherry tree?


                Fury would out-box any Hw ever. I can only see Vitali and Lewis potentially making things interesting. Neither has Wilder's one-punch power, but both hit very, very hard. And that was just part of what made them both great.

                Still, at Hw, I think Wilder's the best candidate because he doesn't mind getting dropping lots of rounds. And he controls his use of power. Technically he's worse than dog shyte. tactically, he's surprisingly competent. Strategically, he's a master.

                You keep watching boxing and you'll see this.

                Fury needed a new team to advance his skills. That's fine. Duran beat Buchanan by punching him in the balls. Leonard avenged his loss to Duran by fighting a dude that reeked of liquor and limited his time in camp dedicated to boxing so he'd have energy to go dancing. Fury got a good look at St. Peter, before winning his belt. I'd say that's just fine.

                Let's see Wilder earn his rematch, and then we can resume this discussion.

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                • Boxing Goat
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Madison boxing
                  He lost i dont care about the verdicts of some paid off judges.
                  Only Canelo has paid off judges.
                  Wilder dropped Fury twice. That's why it was a draw. People trying to say Fury won by some shutout or route are delusional.

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                    #139
                    The fact that most refs would have stopped the fight doesn't mean Wilder should have won. Fury proved most refs are wrong for waving things off without a count.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                      The fact that most refs would have stopped the fight doesn't mean Wilder should have won. Fury proved most refs are wrong for waving things off without a count.
                      No, Fury proved people don't necessarily die after waking up from a KO and being hit again.

                      That is still no excuse to allow people to continue after they've been out cold. KOs are concussions. They're head trauma. Brain damage.

                      To take more shots to the dome after that makes no sense whatsoever. I know injury is part of the sport, but if a fighter's own brain shuts down to prevent itself from absorbing more damage, perhaps we should heed its advice.

                      Adonis Stevenson ending up in a coma that same night is a perfect example of what could go wrong.

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