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  • LacedUp
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    #121
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Let's see how far he would have gotten in life starting as a homeless runaway instead of being handed his daddy's company.
    Probably further than you.

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    • LacedUp
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      #122
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
      A fact doesn't stop being a fact just because you label it "damage control." If anything, you're doing damage control by trying to dismiss the facts.
      Similarly, your facts are not facts just because you call them facts

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        #123
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        Just like Eddie Hearn tried to rush Deontay Wilder into a deal that would move the fight from Fall 2018 to April 2019 and have Wilder now fight on DAZN in the US? lol

        Al Haymon doesn't have a reputation for doing shiesty business with anyone, and I don't know enough about how Shelly Finkell did/does business to know if he reputation for doing bad business either (Haymon working smoothly with Finkell makes me doubt that Finkell is a crook).

        If Joshua/Hearn were serious, they would've let it be known from the jump that the "I'll fight him for $50m, no problem" talk was just banter and that Hearn's "billion dollar deal" hinged on Joshua bringing Wilder to DAZN in the US.

        There was no value in meeting once Anthony Joshua said that he really didn't want to take the fight for a guaranteed $50m.
        try to google shelly finkel shannon briggs.

        end of story.

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        • lfc19titles
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          #124
          Wilder fans on damage control

          Look at the amount of anti Joshua threads they made after being exposed

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          • mp1110
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            #125
            I'm not on Twitter, but this was a horrible look for both of them. Two grown man arguing like teenagers.

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              #126
              Hearn won.

              And I still can't believe people take this "50M offer" seriously. Wilder was making 2-3m per fight, and all of the sudden his team is the one making 50m offers to the moneymaker in the division? If Golovkin offered Canelo 50M, 90% of NSB (including me) would be laughing our asses off. Hell, after Joshua "rejected" than $50M offer, Wilder accepted Joshua's $15M flat fee offer. If that $50m was legit, why in the blue F would you acccept 15?


              It was a publicity stunt, it's obvious to anyone who doesn't have their heads up their butt - especially if you look at how it was presented originally, with that laughable "you have 24 hours" deadline.

              “I got a email actually from Deontay Wilder, not Sherry or Al or anyone like that. It said,” ‘Dear Anthony, you said in a interview if I gave you 50 million you’d sign for the fight tomorrow. I’m going to give you a 50/50 split of the fight.’ “Which isn’t of interest. But with a guarantee of 50 million which is of interest. Please accept this fight by tomorrow. Which kinda made me feel it’s a P.R move more than anything else especially as it’s coming from Deontay Wilder.”


              The more I learned about the offer from Deontay, the more it seemed to be disingenuous. Wilder wants full control of the fight, NO rematch clause, fight date around September-December, No venue information and no word how he will guarantee the money will be paid I.e. lump sum via escrow or installment payments. But Joshua must accept with in 24 hours. Basically, sign a blank piece of paper.

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              • Ray*
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                #127
                Originally posted by j0zef
                Hearn won.

                And I still can't believe people take this "50M offer" seriously. Wilder was making 2-3m per fight, and all of the sudden his team is the one making 50m offers to the moneymaker in the division? If Golovkin offered Canelo 50M, 90% of NSB (including me) would be laughing our asses off. Hell, after Joshua "rejected" than $50M offer, Wilder accepted Joshua's $15M flat fee offer. If that $50m was legit, why in the blue F would you acccept 15?


                It was a publicity stunt, it's obvious to anyone who doesn't have their heads up their butt - especially if you look at how it was presented originally, with that laughable "you have 24 hours" deadline.
                That was one of my biggest thing as well. If you really have 50m dollars why would you then accept an offer of 15m dollars?

                I know the answers would be the 50m was rejected but no thats not good enough, if you really have that money then i would think you would want the other side to see it, go through the terms, let them know where or how the money would be generated etc

                No one offers 50m and not want to sit down and meet, or put a 24 hours notice on it (If true). For me this was the sort of things you see in a Hollywood movies.

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                • Szef
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Similarly, your facts are not facts just because you call them facts
                  Don't even entertain this clown. He's a troll who recently got busted on using alts. What successful promoter does that? Hell what normal person does that? Ignore the troll.

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                  • Earl-Hickey
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by j0zef
                    Hearn won.

                    And I still can't believe people take this "50M offer" seriously. Wilder was making 2-3m per fight, and all of the sudden his team is the one making 50m offers to the moneymaker in the division? If Golovkin offered Canelo 50M, 90% of NSB (including me) would be laughing our asses off. Hell, after Joshua "rejected" than $50M offer, Wilder accepted Joshua's $15M flat fee offer. If that $50m was legit, why in the blue F would you acccept 15?


                    It was a publicity stunt, it's obvious to anyone who doesn't have their heads up their butt - especially if you look at how it was presented originally, with that laughable "you have 24 hours" deadline.
                    50m with no terms and you have 24 hours and no discussion.

                    You don't do business like that.

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                      #130
                      Originally posted by lfc19titles
                      Fake news right here

                      It was confirmed to be next
                      Hearn "confirming" it on IFL is meaningless if he refuses to put it in the contract.

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