Stephen Espinoza vs Eddie Hearn

[bigdunny1]

I'm not on Twitter, but this was a horrible look for both of them. Two grown man arguing like teenagers.

Now this is for sure but it's hilarious to watch. Also key to remember it was Espinoza who started all this by trolling. Whoever's side you are on in the negotiations breakdown between Joshua and Wilder put that aside it was just not a smart move for Espinoza to start this beef all these months later and it phuking backfired he got roasted.

[juggernaut666]

Yeah, Espinoza was trying to deflect. He then tried to claim Hearn said he received a 3 pages documents when hearn said he didn't receive "1,3 or 50 pages" of anything.

Hearn maintained he received a paragraph of 50m dollars offer from the personal email account of Wilder....I found that very very odd.

I would expect that sort of email from solicitors, managers, promoters or networks NOT from actual fighters...Not even from Money Mayweather.

Mayweather was his own manager and business savvy, Wilder is a dope who has 5 guys telling him what to do .Big difference.

[juggernaut666]

Hearn won.

And I still can't believe people take this "50M offer" seriously. Wilder was making 2-3m per fight, and all of the sudden his team is the one making 50m offers to the moneymaker in the division? If Golovkin offered Canelo 50M, 90% of NSB (including me) would be laughing our asses off. Hell, after Joshua "rejected" than $50M offer, Wilder accepted Joshua's $15M flat fee offer. If that $50m was legit, why in the blue F would you acccept 15?


It was a publicity stunt, it's obvious to anyone who doesn't have their heads up their butt - especially if you look at how it was presented originally, with that laughable "you have 24 hours" deadline.

Finkel wasn't even making the offers of 50 million it was BT with Warren but it's a good offer which cannot be accepted so it was never disclosed until months had passed and Wilder declining the 15 million when he had Fury as a way out.

Wilder accepted the 15 million because his party isn't running the table as they pretended to be. They cannot offer anyone 50 million unless Joshua is involved .

The 50 million offer is real , but it's void. It's not even possible to take under BT involvement so they basically just wasted everyone's time because the reality is that don't think they'll win and want 50% which of you go back to 2017 you can see they had no intention of taking this fight unless they bbq were over compensated .

Anyone can offer 50 million if the backer knows they get the money back with interest , Joshua would generate well over that in a Wilder fight. The question is really how ****** are these posters on here who can't see Finkel is the reason this fights not happening he basically brought Warren a non involved rival promoter to Sky into all this for nothing but to set Wilder up with Fury.

[juggernaut666]

Wilder was never sent a contract for a 2018 fight with Joshua. Not sure what's hard to understand about that. Hearn sent a contract with no date, said he'd add a date in a few days, and when a few days went by he said he decided to fight Povetkin next, so the date couldn't be until 10 months later. Wilder, understandably believing it was ridiculous to sign for a fight 10 months away, told Hearn to go **** himself.

That's a lie.

[N/A]

That's a lie.

It's all easily verifiable public information. Hearn sinks his own battleship if you watch all of his IFL videos. His story changes so often that it's easy to see who is telling the truth.

[Scipio2009]

That was in June 2018 ,agreeing and signing are two different things. anyone can agree to fight ,if they don't sign it doesn't mean anything. You're not very good with timelines are you ? After that Finkel made it clear Fury was next and no Joshua fight would be made that year, those are his words .So how could Joshua make that fight ? Finkel on his own premise decided to do 2 fights with Fury which we all know had rematch clauses attached to it.


Wilder was giving 40% and rematch U.S clause for Wembley and he still ran away when the draw made that possible. Maybe you just don't realize its 2019 now and fights cannot be made if the other party doesn't want to fight ?

So now you're acknowledging that there was an agreement, lol.

Good to know.

And Hearn only even talked about offering Wilder 40% after Wilder-Fury was such a hit that no one even was talking about Joshua.

[Kezzer]

Now this is for sure but it's hilarious to watch. Also key to remember it was Espinoza who started all this by trolling. Whoever's side you are on in the negotiations breakdown between Joshua and Wilder put that aside it was just not a smart move for Espinoza to start this beef all these months later and it phuking backfired he got roasted.

My view is exactly this. Didn’t look great for both but Eddie was kind of forced to respond to the comment. Espinoza made argument appeared to be Eddie negotiating a deal for the Klitschko fight with HBO ? Sounds like he was maximising cash for AJ but hard to say exactly what went on.

One thing is for sure , the relationship appears beyond repair now

[LacedUp]

50m with no terms and you have 24 hours and no discussion.

You don't do business like that.

Only Wilder fans in their deluded minds think that's an appropriate way to make the biggest fight in boxing.

[Robbie Barrett]

Still no proof of this 3 page terms being sent? Easily provable, the sender just has to go in his sent folder and pull it up, it'll have the date and everything. Unless it never happened.

[REDEEMER]

Why hide behind a computer? This can be solved very easily. Put your money where your mouth is and bet me. Very easy for me to verify my identity, produce my promoter licenses from various states, etc. If you're so sure I'm lying, bet me.

Its not a im sure ,its I know . You don't know enough about the actual business ,you DO know a lot about trolling and should be permanently banned for multiple reasons ,so sorry a grown man doesn't go about the way you do. Certainly not a business man which I am and had you figured out from the first few replies to me. Challenge you ?Aren't you mentally challenged? Isn't that enough challenge for you ?Ha