Does Mayweather deserve criticism for how relatively little he fought?

[Madison Boxing]

No cause he fought good opposition in his fights. I cant think of many times he fought absolute scrubs, maybe it wasnt the best opponent available eveey time but he wasnt fighting slop like ocampos, shot Peterson, shot amir khan and benavidez who brought a literal meaning to being a shot fighter. These current welters couldnt hold floyds jockstrap

[Larry the boss]

I'll spar Leonard right now, and hope my youth gets me over on him.

Do I deserve credit for that? Is it the same as a prime Leonard? Dude's 62.

but floyd is older then manny and cotto

[Larry the boss]

lol Floyd Sr got knocked out by a random dude like a couple weeks ago, didn't he?

I doubt it. I used to spar a bit as a teen, and I'm confident that, in shape, I could hold my own versus anybody, if not straight out KO them. I'd be afraid of sparring Sr for fear of hurting him. Leonard might actually still be good for a spar, though.

That's beyond the point, anyhow. Deflecting this to a personal attack when you don't even know me in person just makes no sense. Point is that I can't get credit for knocking out Sr or Leonard or anybody that is way past their prime.

The same principle applies to Floyd.

1-That guy was actually a pro boxer

2-He didnt ko Sr

[Larry the boss]

Floyd sr was struggling with Charlie z and got dropped by some fat guy. Yea he was a pro boxer, but the guy is a senior citizen ffs.

struggled?? charlie was hitting nothing but air and then ran out of the ring..and that fat guy was an actual pro boxer

[Ray*]

Floyd was a really good amateur, but I wouldn't say decorated like Rigo/Loma. Floyd had less than 100 amateur fights, compared to those two who had what around 400 amateur fights? Floyd also turned professional when he was 19 years old opposed to those two.

But what is wrong with having 50 fights? Not everyone needs to be Roberto Duran or even Manny Pacquiao. Canelo turned professional when he was 15 years old and was obviously super busy when he first started out. Canelo didn't have much amateur experience so those early fights were essentially his amateur fights.

SRL is a consensus top 10-12 fighter of all time and had 40 fights as mentioned in this thread.

The trend we will be seeing going forward is fighters with around 40-50 fights and less. Will be in rare cases you see fighters with 70+ fights with how little they fight now a days.

He might not be as decorated as Loma or Rigo but he was a stellar young fighter coming through the amateur ranks. And he might have turned pro at 19 and retire at 40 but injuries/long breaks also plays a part in a boxers activity.

50 fights in 20 odd years isn’t bad, and like you pointed SRL only had 40 odd fights even though he was inactive for like 6 years I think.

[todisday]

but floyd is older then manny and cotto

So? Wear and tear in boxing has a lot more to do with punishment than one's actual age. If a fighter retires, hiding while everybody else destroys each other, he's still the fresher man.

[todisday]

1-That guy was actually a pro boxer

2-He didnt ko Sr

I only saw a short clip of him nailing Sr. IDK what happened after he fell; they cut off the footage.

[todisday]

i guess so....but you dont really have any evidence that he ducked these guys other than that he didnt fight them during the time you wanted him to

ive offered you evidence that he agreed to fight margarito...ive offered you evidence he wanted to fight oscar and bob said no so floyd got away from arum and got it on his own

theres tons of evidence that floyd tried to fight pac back in 2010 and that arum squashed the fight for years.....i can provide you with that too.....but you will probably take some floyd quote and use it out of context to suggest he ducked pac....i have evidence and others in the boxing community agreeing with that suggest arum squashed that fight for years

even old shane destroyed margarito and floyd fought him right after that...weve got evidence of shane, from years before, being asked by merchant about floyd and he said he had a toothache and a vacation to take

Two years later is right after? Lol

I could go back and forth with articles and whatnot, but that whole Pacquiao saga is so long and annoying that it's honestly not worth the "research". It's practically common knowledge that Floyd is a ducker by this point.

It's not when I wanted him to; it's when the majority of fans wanted to see those fights next. Instead, he goes on live TV, says he's scared of Cotto retiring him, and runs off until way after Cotto got plastered by Margarito.

And Pacquiao, well, that storyline just speaks for itself.

I would debate this, but it's common knowledge. I'm confident most people are aware; they literally lived through it, if they were boxing fans.

I can respect it if you view this differently, but there's no way I'll ever see Floyd as having fought the best when he was supposed to. Most fans don't.

[Chuckguy]

Floyd should get some sh it for faking his retirements but he is the one in the ring not us so eh it is what it is

[Dosumpthin]

Two years later is right after? Lol

I could go back and forth with articles and whatnot, but that whole Pacquiao saga is so long and annoying that it's honestly not worth the "research". It's practically common knowledge that Floyd is a ducker by this point.

It's not when I wanted him to; it's when the majority of fans wanted to see those fights next. Instead, he goes on live TV, says he's scared of Cotto retiring him, and runs off until way after Cotto got plastered by Margarito.

And Pacquiao, well, that storyline just speaks for itself.

I would debate this, but it's common knowledge. I'm confident most people are aware; they literally lived through it, if they were boxing fans.

I can respect it if you view this differently, but there's no way I'll ever see Floyd as having fought the best when he was supposed to. Most fans don't.

In other words you dont have any facts to support your opinion.