Is Usyk still going to clear out heavyweight

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  • Rusty Tromboni
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    #11
    Originally posted by Dariusz
    Usyk is physically too weak to be in top10 of HW, let alone win belts.
    LOL, just like Duran was too small for barkley, hagler and Leonard?

    And that's a Lightweeight. At Havyweight we've seen generations of men who feasted on larger, sloppier oppoentns. Dempsey vs Willard is as iconic a fight ever. Louis is known for his "bum of the month club". Frazier is the only man to have beaten a prime Ali by bringing the fight to him - and boxig maestro Norton is the only other guy to do it period. Holmes biggest box office his was against Cooney. Tyson is the most hyped Heavyweight short of Ali. And Holyfield had the longest lasting career of relevance in hw history.

    If anything, the evidence shows that there IS such a thing as too big. but it's like automobiles - they keep getting bigger, so the "little" cars have to get bigger too to maintain parity. Usyk meets that criteria. I dunno if Marciano, Patterson, Foster or Spinks would've prevailed at Hw today. But Usyk is bigger than them.

    Aj and Wilder aren't the rubbish some people make them out to be, but they definitely survived so long by contending in a division notoriously absent of technical talent. It's not like Usyk cannot comfortably bulk up himself. He'll still command the advantages of skill and speed.

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    • NearHypnos
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      Probably not big enough for it but I’m sure he’s going to try and that’s what’s exciting. Skill wise Fury seems like an insurmountable task of size and skill but hey, dude is too good for men his size. War Usyk on the basis of him trying

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        #13
        Originally posted by Cutthroat
        No, but after he beats Pedvetkin the hype will return.

        His fan boys will be more than happy to ignore the fact that Pedvetkin is 40, off a stoppage loss to AJ, hasn't stopped anybody in 3 years when he was busted with PED's, and hasn't beaten a single top 10 HW in over a decade though.

        I can see him going after Joyce too who he beat years ago, that'll also boost the hype even more.
        Why do you use the insulting term fan boy? Can't someone just be a fan of the excellent Usyk without being called a fan boy?

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          #14
          Originally posted by NearHypnos
          Probably not big enough for it but I’m sure he’s going to try and that’s what’s exciting. Skill wise Fury seems like an insurmountable task of size and skill but hey, dude is too good for men his size. War Usyk on the basis of him trying
          Do you really think he's too small for Wilder? They're probably only about 10 inconsequential pounds apart. Wilder is just a little too big to make Cw. But he can't comfortably fight much over 210lbs. Plenty of far lesser fighters have troubled Wilder.


          And it's telling that Joshua is so reluctant to fight anyone w/ a pulse. What's he hiding?

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            #15
            People who think he has chances in hw - did you see this pic?

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              #16
              Could beat Joyce with speed but against the Furys and Joshuas, I don't think so.

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                #17
                Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                Are we still in the hype when a man is an Olympic champion and a four belt unified champ in a division?
                The way he's been talked up as being able to defeat the champions at HW and how poorly he looked against Bellew, yes.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by djif
                  People who think he has chances in hw - did you see this pic?

                  Size isnt everything in boxing. If that were the case,then nobody under 6'4 would be competitive at heavyweight. If usyk can put on some lean mass and walk into the ring at 215-220 lbs while maintaining his speed and endurance,he'd be a handful for any heavyweight. His technical prowess and boxing Iq would be the equalizer when facing the big guys.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                    Do you really think he's too small for Wilder? They're probably only about 10 inconsequential pounds apart. Wilder is just a little too big to make Cw. But he can't comfortably fight much over 210lbs. Plenty of far lesser fighters have troubled Wilder.


                    And it's telling that Joshua is so reluctant to fight anyone w/ a pulse. What's he hiding?
                    Usyk comes in around 210/215 after making 200. At HW he will be at least 10lbs heavier than Wilder.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Cutthroat
                      The way he's been talked up as being able to defeat the champions at HW and how poorly he looked against Bellew, yes.

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